So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Jan 17th 2017, 1:52 pm
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
You're in for a disappointment. 
My take on this is that both UK Houses have already conspired to scupper the triggering of Article 50 and then for TM to call a General Election. Both Conservative and Labour parties will campaign with manifestos to "Bremain". Unshackling the EU corpse won't be that easy, the RoI is a case in point.
Jan 17th 2017, 1:59 pm
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Parliament will vote on the terms of the exit not the exit itself.
Article 50 will have already been triggered by then.
That's what the 2 years after article 50 are for, to negotiate terms.
EU have got their heads round us leaving now and once the 50 button is pressed they won't be taking us back.
Article 50 will have already been triggered by then.
That's what the 2 years after article 50 are for, to negotiate terms.
EU have got their heads round us leaving now and once the 50 button is pressed they won't be taking us back.
Jan 17th 2017, 2:14 pm
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Parliament will vote on the terms of the exit not the exit itself.
Article 50 will have already been triggered by then.
That's what the 2 years after article 50 are for, to negotiate terms.
EU have got their heads round us leaving now and once the 50 button is pressed they won't be taking us back.
Article 50 will have already been triggered by then.
That's what the 2 years after article 50 are for, to negotiate terms.
EU have got their heads round us leaving now and once the 50 button is pressed they won't be taking us back.
Jan 17th 2017, 2:29 pm
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Jan 17th 2017, 2:40 pm
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
The UKs internal political battle will start on the terms.
Jan 18th 2017, 8:03 am
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
So leaving the EU is a magic cure? That's disingenuous and naive. (And that does not mean that I am saying that staying in is a magic cure before someone tries that pathetic response.)
Incredible that the current Tory government is lurching to the right of Thatcher.
Incredible that the current Tory government is lurching to the right of Thatcher.
Jan 18th 2017, 8:27 am
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Theresa May is probably the most left wing PM we've had in a very long time, madame....
So leaving the EU is a magic cure? That's disingenuous and naive. (And that does not mean that I am saying that staying in is a magic cure before someone tries that pathetic response.)
Incredible that the current Tory government is lurching to the right of Thatcher.
http://i68.tinypic.com/np5oow.jpg
Incredible that the current Tory government is lurching to the right of Thatcher.
http://i68.tinypic.com/np5oow.jpg
Jan 18th 2017, 9:18 am
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ETC.
Jan 18th 2017, 11:14 am
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Britain refused to join the EEC right at the start, because it felt it was a global power with a commonwealth and it would trade with that instead.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
Jan 18th 2017, 11:18 am
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
Britain refused to join the EEC right at the start, because it felt it was a global power with a commonwealth and it would trade with that instead.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
Jan 18th 2017, 11:20 am
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I knew it was just a matter of time before you popped in and started whinging 
Britain refused to join the EEC right at the start, because it felt it was a global power with a commonwealth and it would trade with that instead.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
After a few years of the economy being outpaced by the original EEC 6 countries, it was clear that selling morris minors to sheepshaggers in NZ wasn't a great business model. After being refused by the french a couple of times because they reckoned we were not really committed to 'ever closer union' and 'freedom of movement' (which contrary to popular Daily Express opinion, were laid down in the founding treaty of rome, 1957), and were too close to the USA, Britain eventually lied it's way in and assured everyone we really were committed now.
We spent the next 40 years or so being pretty successful as a result, rising from a moribund 12th biggest economy in the world (at a time when half of Europe was communist and people in the far east rode a bike if they were rich) to the 5th largest, while all the time doing our best to frustrate 'ever closer union' such that the rest of them really cannot wait now to get rid of us.
But I for one am fed up, especially as we now have to share decisions about hairdryers and vacuum cleaners with the Germans and French. We will very soon have control of the hairdryer and vacuum cleaner industry back in our own hands. We'll still be a NATO member which means the armed forces that defend our homeland are controlled by an American general who answers to an orangutang who wants to let Vladimir Putin have crimea, and maybe the rest of eastern europe too. But let's not get sidetracked. Sovereignty was never about side issues like who gets to send our tanks over the top or command our planes to bomb people, we will be able to make less environmentally friendly hairdryers than the rest of europe. And we can happily go back to selling moris minors or whatever other cr4p we can build without german help to the sheepshaggers again. A new golden age dawns.
Jan 18th 2017, 11:34 am
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Re: So we're leaving the EU including the Single Market
The 'red side' meaning those commie Labour folk?
Are they lurching to the right too? They seem to be lurching all over the place and achieving precisely nothing right now.
