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kittycat1 May 13th 2011 1:07 pm

Smuggling more than budgies!
 
http://en.news.maktoob.com/200900007...rt/Article.htm

:(

Boomhauer May 13th 2011 1:10 pm

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"It looked like they had sedated the animals and had them in flat cages so they couldn't move around much," Galster said. Some of the animals were placed inside canisters with air holes.
I hope he gets to spend a lot of years behind bars. Seeing as he is an Emirati, not like he is some poor chap from a poverty stricken country desperate to feed his family.

Hello.Kitty May 13th 2011 1:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 9362037)
I hope he gets to spend a lot of years behind bars. Seeing as he is an Emirati, not like he is some poor chap from a poverty stricken country desperate to feed his family.

I [don't] like the article's phrasing "fetching $5000 a piece" though - they're animals, not objects... unless you get rid of that kind of mindset, then it's always going to continue.

OriginalSunshine May 13th 2011 3:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 9362037)
I hope he gets to spend a lot of years behind bars. Seeing as he is an Emirati, not like he is some poor chap from a poverty stricken country desperate to feed his family.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...ok-in-pictures

First class passenger. Sick b*****d. The last picture is heartbreaking.

Glad he got caught in Thailand, not so much wasta influence there.

Chris_m May 13th 2011 5:02 pm

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Hope they sedate and stick him in a little cage so he can't move!!!!

OleJanx May 13th 2011 5:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9362491)
Hope they sedate and stick him in a little cage so he can't move!!!!

Seems like a fair punishment to me...:thumbup:

kittycat1 May 13th 2011 7:05 pm

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Hope they sedate and stick him in a little cage so he can't move!!!!
And then stick him in the hold for however many hours- I imagine not all of these little animals would have survived the journey. It really is a sick trade.

If they had been discovered at this end what would have happened to them?

soukie May 13th 2011 8:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9362491)
Hope they sedate and stick him in a little cage so he can't move!!!!


Better still feed him to the Mums and Dads. Looks like he might have wasta though as he has already been released on bail.

Chris_m May 13th 2011 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9362765)
And then stick him in the hold for however many hours- I imagine not all of these little animals would have survived the journey. It really is a sick trade.

If they had been discovered at this end what would have happened to them?

More than likely nothing, As here they X-ray ur luggage on arrival, So i reckon he had someone at this end to get him through.

Spugsy May 14th 2011 6:31 am

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9362986)
More than likely nothing, As here they X-ray ur luggage on arrival, So i reckon he had someone at this end to get him through.

Hope he goes to prison, but he'll more than likely get a fine and that's that.

Norm_uk May 14th 2011 10:39 am

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 9362037)
I hope he gets to spend a lot of years behind bars. Seeing as he is an Emirati, not like he is some poor chap from a poverty stricken country desperate to feed his family.

I am sure he will love the special treatment he receives in a Thai jail with all his special rights to halal food, prayer times and exception from anything resembling work being respected of course ;)

Why don't they invest money in modern, well equipped Zoos with well trained staff if they want to see exotic animals?

N.

Paracletus May 14th 2011 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9362491)
Hope they sedate and stick him in a little cage so he can't move!!!!

So you are a big fan of Sharia law Iran style are you? :confused:

Chris_m May 14th 2011 1:13 pm

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Well i know giving them 3 meals a day, Access to sky Tv pool tables football pitches and computer access doesn't work. So yer why not give it a bash if it puts an end to things!!

Blue Cat May 14th 2011 3:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9364057)
Well i know giving them 3 meals a day, Access to sky Tv pool tables football pitches and computer access doesn't work. So yer why not give it a bash if it puts an end to things!!

:thumbup:

Alexa May 14th 2011 5:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9363836)
I am sure he will love the special treatment he receives in a Thai jail with all his special rights to halal food, prayer times and exception from anything resembling work being respected of course ;)

Why don't they invest money in modern, well equipped Zoos with well trained staff if they want to see exotic animals?

N.

They don't want to SEE those animals, they want to OWN them.
And well trained staff? Rofl. We had a Tiger mum and 2 cubs on the loose here for 2 days. They escaped from a "private" place, (say palace), because the Indian chap was scared shitless and left the door open while running away.

All 3 were shot by the police. No, not the Indian chap.

The Dean May 14th 2011 6:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty (Post 9362100)
I [don't] like the article's phrasing "fetching $5000 a piece" though - they're animals, not objects... unless you get rid of that kind of mindset, then it's always going to continue.

It's an English word that's all..........

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apiece

Paracletus May 15th 2011 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9364057)
Well i know giving them 3 meals a day, Access to sky Tv pool tables football pitches and computer access doesn't work. So yer why not give it a bash if it puts an end to things!!

You know this based on what? Speaking from experience I gather. Some countries have quite successfully implemented the 'luxury holiday prison model' you seem to critique, and enjoy very low rates of reoffending convicts.

But instituting the death penalty for all crimes would solve most things, I'd agree to that.

Chris_m May 15th 2011 5:15 pm

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Spent 7yrs on the force in the uk. You can throw all the statistics you want at me. But from personal experience of picking up MR X at 1845pm for robbery and hi-jacking of a bus(I kid you not) after being released on licence from H.M Finest at 10am that morning on licence. Then no i do not think that luxury jails work in the slightest. Especially when asked why he did he replied am better off back in side they feed me!!!!


And another note to add, No i do not agree on the death penalty given the huge flaws in the judicial system and the amount of wrong convictions given, A Sgt once told me. We are all only ever a 15second judgement away from being convicted. I fell foul of this am no angel. But i tell you lets make the deterrent a little better that 3meals a day free TV and other privelages. Here if you're family can't pay u don't eat. Lets give that a go in the uk. And i bet cells here aint air conditioned either!!!!!

Millemonkey May 16th 2011 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 9365751)
Spent 7yrs on the force in the uk. You can throw all the statistics you want at me. But from personal experience of picking up MR X at 1845pm for robbery and hi-jacking of a bus(I kid you not) after being released on licence from H.M Finest at 10am that morning on licence. Then no i do not think that luxury jails work in the slightest. Especially when asked why he did he replied am better off back in side they feed me!!!!


And another note to add, No i do not agree on the death penalty given the huge flaws in the judicial system and the amount of wrong convictions given, A Sgt once told me. We are all only ever a 15second judgement away from being convicted. I fell foul of this am no angel. But i tell you lets make the deterrent a little better that 3meals a day free TV and other privelages. Here if you're family can't pay u don't eat. Lets give that a go in the uk. And i bet cells here aint air conditioned either!!!!!

Agreed! Prisons should be hell-holes. People should be terrified of going to prison, it would make them think twice about committing crimes.
It's not frightening to go to prison in the UK these days, they're soft, holiday homes. Inmates are treated better than normal civilians!
If you want to deter criminals then you have to make the punishments something to be afraid of.

Millhouse May 16th 2011 5:58 am

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Originally Posted by Millemonkey (Post 9366646)
It's not frightening to go to prison in the UK these days, they're soft, holiday homes. Inmates are treated better than normal civilians!

Is this information sourced from the Daily Mail by any chance?


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