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Old Feb 4th 2013, 7:08 am
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No doubt this would have prevented the issue from the beginning:

http://english.alarabiya.net/article...03/264031.html
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Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope
No doubt this would have prevented the issue from the beginning:

http://english.alarabiya.net/article...03/264031.html
That should stop those cock teasing babies tempting an honest man.
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Yep, that should do it.

In other news, the Bank of England is withdrawing all money from circulation, because occasionally bad people steal it.
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Originally Posted by Desert Dubliner
Well, in the west he would have probably been found crazy and sent to a nice clinic of observation. So in fact one can argue that he was more severely punished that he would have been in the so called civilised societies. Look at Breivik for example, having killed dozens of people he is allowed to complain that he guards aren't switching his telly on fast enough. In KSA this guy would have been on the chop chop square as matter of weeks. So what do you make of that?
Living in Norway, I must say, the people are quite impressive on this matter. As much as a disgusting individual he is, he barely makes the news these days. He might even be let out, in theory. But then again, Norway has one of the lowest rates of re-offending criminals in Europe, quite possibly the world. Crime rates are generally low, Breivik alone killed almost twice the amount of people killed intentionally in the country as a whole per year. Prison populations are quite low as well. Interestingly, more reported crimes than Saudi, but this case perhaps goes some way to explain what goes as a crime in Saudi...


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Perhaps more clarity

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-...case-1.1141634

The Saudi Islamic Affairs Ministry had said in November that Al Ghamdi was not an officially sanctioned Islamic preacher. “He is not registered with the ministry and we have no relationship with him in any way,” Shaikh Saleh Bin Abdul Aziz Al Shaikh, the minister, said. “He had committed a heinous crime and he cannot be a preacher. No-one can ever justify his crime.”

Further clarification on the hadith (or the lack of it)

http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-stud...go-unpunished/

Can anyone give me a list of the law that states that its ok to murder your child in KSA (or any country) ?
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Some weird stuff in the bible about this.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...21&version=NIV
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ACu9IBw#t=268s

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk
Western complicity in empowering the most extreme Muslims (which hurts the Muslims who are non-Jihad and reform minded) has to be as digusting as a lot of the acts these people get up to.

We do it at home and abroad - supporting nutters, terrorists and people who want to see our way of life destroyed.

But fixing Saudi now will take bombs and millions of troops. Better to just find oil alternatives and stop giving them money - and stop sharing technology with them unless they change.

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Should never have taken troops out of SA after the 1st Gulf war. Should have dragged those barbarians into the 20th century whether they liked it or not.

Whats even worse is Western powers giving nuclear technology the Gulf. With Pakistani help, the Saudis will get the bomb.
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http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/31/47826

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...sts-rape-kids/

Shall we lock and load to carpet bomb the US ?

Wow this sounds like an endemic issue ?

Or perhaps this is the appropriate action and there is a grain of truth ?


or perhaps go for a blunderbluss approach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

(admittedly these are cherry picking crimes - im sure there are a few closer ones to the OP)

Does this mean that state religion is at fault or the action of a few individuals ?
Should the Church change the name of the priest from "Father" to something else now ?


I wonder which other knee jerk stupid, illogical, and ****wit remarks that i can jump to.
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Just Like many Third World countries KSA is a country well ridden with corruptions. Having said that I am still quite dubious about this whole story since all the accounts are coming only from 'activists'. Quran clearly states the old famous rule 'Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth' and warns against selectively applying this rule (something quite so often happens in KSA).

If it is true what this guy has done then make no mistake about it, the Islamic ruling would be death, the same kind of justice in the USA courts, but unfortunately not quite so in the European courts. That's why there are many child serial killers still breathing fresh air in 3 star Europe prisons.
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Most Saudis and most Muslims are, I am sure, as horrified as we are. The reality is that in KSA you cannot just say what you think !

My contacts tell me the story was not widely reported in the Arabic language media.
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Originally Posted by redShark
Just Like many Third World countries KSA is a country well ridden with corruptions. Having said that I am still quite dubious about this whole story since all the accounts are coming only from 'activists'. Quran clearly states the old famous rule 'Eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth' and warns against selectively applying this rule (something quite so often happens in KSA).

If it is true what this guy has done then make no mistake about it, the Islamic ruling would be death, the same kind of justice in the USA courts, but unfortunately not quite so in the European courts. That's why there are many child serial killers still breathing fresh air in 3 star Europe prisons.
I find the 'eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth' an antiquated and barbaric idea. This thread is interesting, as it shows alot of the posters who share a very worrisome similarity to the most brutal aspects of a barbaric ideology currently trying to expand it's influence on a global scale. Would any of them attend one of the decapitations performed in public in KSA or Iran if they could? I'd rather not have that in Europe, if anything, the justice system and view of crime and punishment is truly one of the things which makes me proud to be associated with European culture and civilization. Punishment, including death, does not rid the world of crime..nor does a soft approach to punishment and eventual reintegration back into society create more crime. Countries with low crime rates tend to be generally equal societies, which perhaps explains why Britain has so much of it compared to other northern european countries.
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Originally Posted by UKCityGent
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com...12/08/31/47826

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...sts-rape-kids/

Shall we lock and load to carpet bomb the US ?

Wow this sounds like an endemic issue ?

Or perhaps this is the appropriate action and there is a grain of truth ?


or perhaps go for a blunderbluss approach - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

(admittedly these are cherry picking crimes - im sure there are a few closer ones to the OP)

Does this mean that state religion is at fault or the action of a few individuals ?
Should the Church change the name of the priest from "Father" to something else now ?


I wonder which other knee jerk stupid, illogical, and ****wit remarks that i can jump to.
no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.
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Old Feb 5th 2013, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by shiva
no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.
Amen! Erm, no..... maybe hallelujah? No, what about booyakasha then...?
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Originally Posted by shiva
no not state religion, just religion full stop. Given the prevalence across nations, geography and time I'd say there is a pretty compelling case against all religions.

Exactly that.
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