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Meow Jul 9th 2011 10:00 am

Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 
Take a look at this link from Zawya, from a story published in the Saudi Gazette

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA...emailmarketing


Some are saying that women are receiving too much education and not being taught domestic skills, although on the flip side seems some women seem to expect their husbands to fund an extravagent lifestyle for them without making any contribution themselves.

I think the whole country is quite twisted. :rolleyes:

Millhouse Jul 9th 2011 10:22 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9484777)
Take a look at this link from Zawya, from a story published in the Saudi Gazette

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA...emailmarketing


Some are saying that women are receiving too much education and not being taught domestic skills, although on the flip side seems some women seem to expect their husbands to fund an extravagent lifestyle for them without making any contribution themselves.

I think the whole country is quite twisted. :rolleyes:

In contrast... In the west the women all blame the men.

al dente Jul 9th 2011 11:51 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 9484799)
In contrast... In the west the women all blame the men.

Or in Caitlin Moran's words 'not men but The Man' as in the patriachy.

*puts feminist head back below parapet.

Norm_uk Jul 10th 2011 7:16 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by al dente (Post 9484888)
Or in Caitlin Moran's words 'not men but The Man' as in the patriachy.

*puts feminist head back below parapet.

I've always wondered who this "man" was to be honest. Can't they find him and shoot him? They found Bin Ladin so it can't be that hard ;)

On a side note feminism always amazes me today in the West. It seems more about blaming the current generation of men for crimes against women their great-grandfathers may have committed or supported, and promoting a victim mentality in women than actually trying to support equality of opportunity under law.

I'd like to see feminists get up in arms about how women are treated Saudi in the same way they do about a company asking it's staff to wear a skirt :confused:

N.

Meow Jul 10th 2011 7:37 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9486020)
I've always wondered who this "man" was to be honest. Can't they find him and shoot him? They found Bin Ladin so it can't be that hard ;)

On a side note feminism always amazes me today in the West. It seems more about blaming the current generation of men for crimes against women their great-grandfathers may have committed or supported, and promoting a victim mentality in women than actually trying to support equality of opportunity under law.

I'd like to see feminists get up in arms about how women are treated Saudi in the same way they do about a company asking it's staff to wear a skirt :confused:

N.

That is not feminism. Sadly it's a much misused and misunderstood concept these days.

Feminism is simply about wanting equality for women and by that I mean equal opportunities and equal treatment. In the West we largely have that, at least in law, but there is a long way to go in many countries.

Norm_uk Jul 10th 2011 7:49 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9486049)
That is not feminism. Sadly it's a much misused and misunderstood concept these days.

Feminism is simply about wanting equality for women and by that I mean equal opportunities and equal treatment. In the West we largely have that, at least in law, but there is a long way to go in many countries.

Then can't we call it equal opportunities rather than feminism and include men too?

N.

Meow Jul 10th 2011 7:54 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9486061)
Then can't we call it equal opportunities rather than feminism and include men too?

N.

Ideally we would, but there is a legacy of patriarchy that is still to be overcome so it is too soon for that. In so many countries women have far fewer opportunities or rights, so it is still relevant to focus on the needs of women.

To make it totally clear, proper feminism is not anti-men it is pro-women.

al dente Jul 10th 2011 8:57 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9486065)
Ideally, but there is a legacy of patriarchy that is still to be overcome so it is too soon for that. In so many countries women have far few opportunities or rights, then it is still relevant to focus on the needs of women.

To make it totally clear, proper feminism is not anti-men it is pro-women.

I completely agree with meow on this. Though as a man, you are very welcome to become a feminist too.

Bahtatboy Jul 10th 2011 9:56 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by al dente (Post 9486134)
I completely agree with meow on this. Though as a man, you are very welcome to become a feminist too.

Does it improve our chances of a quick shag?

Meow Jul 10th 2011 10:01 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9486212)
Does it improve our chances of a quick shag?

Only if you are really fit

Bahtatboy Jul 10th 2011 10:05 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9486224)
Only if you are really fit

No probs for me then, but not so sure about Norm.:D

Charismatic Jul 10th 2011 11:49 am

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 
I agree its women’s fault. Everything was fine until you lot rejected subjugation under men. Can’t you see how your discontentment with your lot in life is driving marriages apart?

One day you want to be allowed out of the house alone, then you want to driver cars and eventually have equal pay for doing the same work as a man. Well if you can get a job, car, sex toy and go out alone what do you need a (possibly demanding, lazy and/or abusive) husband for? See how opportunity gives women choice?

Eventually even men have to change in awful ways for you. Their company has to be enjoyable, they have to be intelligent and interesting because there are no good women left who accept the old ways of life.

Norm_uk Jul 10th 2011 12:31 pm

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 9486230)
No probs for me then, but not so sure about Norm.:D

Good thing I have a personality and brains...with my looks and rampant misogyny I'd never get my leg over otherwise ;)

N.

Meow Jul 10th 2011 1:03 pm

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9486430)
Good thing I have a personality and brains...with my looks and rampant misogyny I'd never get my leg over otherwise ;)

N.

All that talk of Nazis is such a turn on... ;)

Norm_uk Jul 10th 2011 2:15 pm

Re: Saudi divorce rate all the fault of women, according to the men
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 9486477)
All that talk of Nazis is such a turn on... ;)

Evokes images of sexy black leather uniforms...always works for me :p

N.


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