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DXBtoDOH Jan 31st 2017 7:12 am

Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
What are your standard salutations / openings?

Hello XXXX? Dear XXXX? Hi? Yo mate?

As for closings? Which is it?

I've just realised I despise 'kind regards' as a closing. There's something daft about it. 'Kind' in an email to someone you don't know and have never met?

On the other hand, sincerely seems fussy and old fashioned and overly formal, while 'thank you / thanks' is juvenile and let's not even get into that absolutely awful 'thank you in advance' that's too often employed these days.

What's the best closing if you really want to say 'piss off'?

jam25mack Jan 31st 2017 7:30 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
In work for me its 'Hi' for a colleague I know.... or to someone who I am wanting something from.... otherwise its just their first name.

Sign off as 'Regards'. As for 'Thanks in advance', I do very occasionally if I am asking a favour of someone.

For non work it could be 'Ho, Sup, Yo, Oy' or many others!

al dente Jan 31st 2017 7:34 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
For unknown prof:
Dear Sir/ Madam
Yours faithfully

For formal person:
Dear xxx
Yours sincerely/ Regards

Colleague:
Hi
Regards/ Best

Mate:
Hola/ yo
Much love/ speak soon/ my initial with an x

IKnowNothing Jan 31st 2017 7:49 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
Best,

IKnowNothing

scrubbedexpat141 Jan 31st 2017 7:55 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
Hi or just first name,

'Thanks' if asked for something
'Kind Regards' otherwise.

If I want to say piss off - I just put nothing. I just finish the sentence and hit send....They know.

DXBtoDOH Jan 31st 2017 8:00 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
Yeah.....good strategy. No closings says much in the right context.


Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12166230)

If I want to say piss off - I just put nothing. I just finish the sentence and hit send....They know.


scrubbedexpat141 Jan 31st 2017 8:08 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12166231)
Yeah.....good strategy. No closings says much in the right context.

But it's out of 'character' for my emails, which makes the point firmer I think.

I have


Hi DXBtoDOH,

Thanks for whatever.

Cheers for that.

Look forward to speaking on X.

Kind Regards,
Scamp

Scamp McScampshire
Chief Dickhead


Company ABC
Signature / Tel / Linkedin etc etc etc
Other option is, when pissed off:


Hi DXBtoDOH,

Thanks for nothing.

Cheers for nothing.

Call me on X.


Scamp McScampshire
Chief Dickhead


Company ABC
Signature / Tel / Linkedin etc etc etc

Big_Show Jan 31st 2017 8:59 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
Had this discussion with some friends back home the other day - turns out we all use "Kind regards" when we want to say "***** you and your entire family" but don't want to get fired...

Bahtatboy Jan 31st 2017 10:28 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by al dente (Post 12166219)
For unknown prof:
Dear Sir/ Madam
Yours faithfully

For formal person:
Dear xxx
Yours sincerely/ Regards

Colleague:
Hi
Regards/ Best

Mate:
Hola/ yo
Much love/ speak soon/ my initial with an x

:goodpost:
Although I usually do "Best regards", and if it's a close-enough colleague I may go with "Hi / Cheers".



Originally Posted by IKnowNothing (Post 12166228)
Best,

IKnowNothing

Best what? I find that inane.

Meow Jan 31st 2017 10:33 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 12166351)


Best what? I find that inane.

I've always thought that it doesn't make sense. As you say, best what?

Kind regards

Meow

IKnowNothing Jan 31st 2017 2:11 pm

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 12166361)
I've always thought that it doesn't make sense. As you say, best what?

Kind regards

Meow

Oh but it means so much, depending on the content of the email, both positive and negative. If the recipient can't get it, mor fool them.

Best,

IKN

Pulaski Jan 31st 2017 2:14 pm

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12166230)
Hi or just first name,

'Thanks' if asked for something
'Kind Regards' otherwise.

If I want to say piss off - I just put nothing. I just finish the sentence and hit send....They know.

This^, in most cases, except I don't use "kind".

For a friend I might conclude "Take care,".

livinginnyc Jan 31st 2017 2:30 pm

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by Big_Show (Post 12166280)
Had this discussion with some friends back home the other day - turns out we all use "Kind regards" when we want to say "***** you and your entire family" but don't want to get fired...

I used to use "kind regards" all the time before someone mentioned this to me, so I switched to a mix of -

- Best,
- Best wishes,
- You're a star (if someone did something good),
- Lets discuss (if someone did something bad),
- Sincerely or no sign-off (F YOU),

For starting an email -

Hi/Hello.etc .etc (emailing a boss/someone I'm not familiar with),
Team: (group email to my team. Bit pretentious).
Straight into the message no welcome (someone I know/carrying on a conversation).

Starting an email with <firstname>, I've always seen as slightly cold and/or wanting to convey authority, so I typically only use it if i've been upset with the recipient, even if they may not know that.

Millhouse Feb 1st 2017 2:58 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 
I love all the passive aggression. reader probably doesn't even notice in this region.

I've taken on the Arab way when it comes to emails and I try to avoid them at all cost. They should only be used for 1) distributing information, 2) covering your arse, or 3) thank yous

As such ... I'm almost always a Hi ..Cheers.

I never expect a reply to emails and nor do I want them usually given the sole purposes I use them for.


Edit - I also try not to read them outside of hours - afterall no one ever sends good news by email. If there is a problem that needs more immediate solving then WhatsApp or the phone is the way. Emails requiring a respons can wait until the next day. It's a very hard discipline to enforce and I'm not perfect at it... But improving.

scrubbedexpat141 Feb 1st 2017 4:04 am

Re: Salutations, closings and sign-offs in correspondence
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12166625)
This^, in most cases, except I don't use "kind".

For a friend I might conclude "Take care,".

Good point, I sometimes drop the Kind, but not normally.


Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12167277)
Edit - I also try not to read them outside of hours - afterall no one ever sends good news by email. If there is a problem that needs more immediate solving then WhatsApp or the phone is the way. Emails requiring a respons can wait until the next day. It's a very hard discipline to enforce and I'm not perfect at it... But improving.

I turn mine off sometimes - easily done on the iphone and bliss really. Problem is (like you) on a Friday so much of my work is still happening.

But as you say, if it's important they can ring or text. I wouldn't respond to anyone outside the organisation on whatsapp.
Also - what is it with people using Linkedin as a tool to contact you? Get to ****. You've emailed me before, just because I haven't replied don't send me a message on Linkedin - which do you think I look at more?


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