Ricky Gervais writes........
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Ricky Gervais writes........
........... in the....... er........ Wall Street Journal.....
"Why I'm An Atheist"........ superb............
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...im-an-atheist/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...our-questions/
"Why I'm An Atheist"........ superb............
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...im-an-atheist/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...our-questions/
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Re: Ricky Gervais writes........
........... in the....... er........ Wall Street Journal.....
"Why I'm An Atheist"........ superb............
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...im-an-atheist/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...our-questions/
"Why I'm An Atheist"........ superb............
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...im-an-atheist/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/...our-questions/
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Re: Ricky Gervais writes........
“Do unto others…” is a good rule of thumb. I live by that. Forgiveness is probably the greatest virtue there is. But that’s exactly what it is -‐ a virtue. Not just a Christian virtue. No one owns being good. I'm good. I just don’t believe I’ll be rewarded for it in heaven. My reward is here and now. It’s knowing that I try to do the right thing. That I lived a good life. And that’s where spirituality really lost its way. When it became a stick to beat people with. “Do this or you’ll burn in hell.”
You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.
You won’t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.
I also said doesn't it make you a better person if you are good without thinking it might get you something in the next life, true altruism, rather than buying a piece of nirvana.
Well done Ricky, I usually think he's a bit of a cock
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Interesting thread...in some ways I see where Ricky is coming from and applaud his honesty. However when he says "People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary" I disagree.
I personally believe in God but would not call myself overly religious. I think that belief is basically "believing something beyond a reasonable doubt" and that for me has been formed I think from looking at proof of existence carefully. Seeing anything to the contrary would not be something I would avoid it would be something I would embrace. I think Ricky is a bit narrow in this comment and assumes that to believe in God you are either "blind" to evidence or choose to avoid it. I personally love intelligent science and don't see why it has to contradict reasonable faith...
I personally believe in God but would not call myself overly religious. I think that belief is basically "believing something beyond a reasonable doubt" and that for me has been formed I think from looking at proof of existence carefully. Seeing anything to the contrary would not be something I would avoid it would be something I would embrace. I think Ricky is a bit narrow in this comment and assumes that to believe in God you are either "blind" to evidence or choose to avoid it. I personally love intelligent science and don't see why it has to contradict reasonable faith...
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Re: Ricky Gervais writes........
Interesting thread...in some ways I see where Ricky is coming from and applaud his honesty. However when he says "People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary" I disagree.
I personally believe in God but would not call myself overly religious. I think that belief is basically "believing something beyond a reasonable doubt" and that for me has been formed I think from looking at proof of existence carefully. Seeing anything to the contrary would not be something I would avoid it would be something I would embrace. I think Ricky is a bit narrow in this comment and assumes that to believe in God you are either "blind" to evidence or choose to avoid it. I personally love intelligent science and don't see why it has to contradict reasonable faith...
I personally believe in God but would not call myself overly religious. I think that belief is basically "believing something beyond a reasonable doubt" and that for me has been formed I think from looking at proof of existence carefully. Seeing anything to the contrary would not be something I would avoid it would be something I would embrace. I think Ricky is a bit narrow in this comment and assumes that to believe in God you are either "blind" to evidence or choose to avoid it. I personally love intelligent science and don't see why it has to contradict reasonable faith...
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Re: Ricky Gervais writes........
True but I think you can believe something beyond a reasonable doubt whether in favour of God or not. I choose to trust in him. Maybe I am wrong but I guess one day I will find out...
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and when you do find out - there's bound to be somebody here who will say "I told you so" one way or another.
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Haha most likely...guess it's one of life's great mysteries...
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reasonable faith does not exist, in order to have faith in god one must discard reason all together
why do you choose to trust in him?
you have arbitrarily defined your sky fairy as a him, with not one single piece of evidence for his existence in the first place. I'd suggest trusting in yourself as this is what you are doing anyway so just remove the reference to god
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Hiya in response to the" who created the creator" I believe in a God that is an eternal, self-existent Being (the uncaused first cause)
Apologetic Junkie I think puts it well. I guess my line of thinking is similar. If you are interested the link is http://apologeticjunkie.blogspot.fr/...d-creator.html
Apologetic Junkie I think puts it well. I guess my line of thinking is similar. If you are interested the link is http://apologeticjunkie.blogspot.fr/...d-creator.html