Referendum in Egypt
Dec 24th 2012, 10:02 pm
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Referendum in Egypt
Remember all that Hooha in the Media about "The Arab Spring" ? Democracy reaches the Arab World, bla, bla, bla.
Are we REALLY surprised that the Islamists have won ?
Are we REALLY surprised that the Islamists have won ?
Dec 25th 2012, 12:31 am
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Re: Referendum in Egypt
No.
There's more of 'em
Simples
There's more of 'em
Simples
Dec 25th 2012, 5:17 am
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Re: Referendum in Egypt
Have to agree. The western governments must be pretty embarrassed by it all having given unconditional support to the "rebels". Mubarrak for all his faults was a buffer against the extremists, once he was deposed, it was obvious the people were going to vote for the complete opposite of what they had before - so entered the Muslim Brotherhood who had been banned previously. Same thing will happen in Syria I fear, which perhaps explains why the West are a little bit more cautious about giving too much help
Dec 27th 2012, 5:55 pm
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Re: Referendum in Egypt
Why is noone still talking about Sayyib Quttb? He should be mentioned more by the media and all the people who want to discuss the MBH in Egypt and rise of islamism in general.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
The west can thank itself for its support to tyrannical dictators with the current state of islamism. It's never effectively been dealt with, just suppressed. Ideas are not defeated with prisons and torture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
The west can thank itself for its support to tyrannical dictators with the current state of islamism. It's never effectively been dealt with, just suppressed. Ideas are not defeated with prisons and torture.
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Dec 27th 2012, 7:44 pm
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Re: Referendum in Egypt
The media take the easy way and give you a minute or two - with clips of locals being interviewed in English. Meanwhile, upcountry the "Ikhwan" have plans.
The Islamists in the Brotherhood and orther organisations actually DO things for poor people. If I were an ordinary Egyptian on an average income, I would vote for them too ! It is a bit like voting for Tammany Hall if you are in a low income area of New York in the 1930s or 1940s. You have problems, you go and see the "Ward Boss"
The Islamists in the Brotherhood and orther organisations actually DO things for poor people. If I were an ordinary Egyptian on an average income, I would vote for them too ! It is a bit like voting for Tammany Hall if you are in a low income area of New York in the 1930s or 1940s. You have problems, you go and see the "Ward Boss"
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Dec 27th 2012, 11:30 pm
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Re: Referendum in Egypt
The media take the easy way and give you a minute or two - with clips of locals being interviewed in English. Meanwhile, upcountry the "Ikhwan" have plans.
The Islamists in the Brotherhood and orther organisations actually DO things for poor people. If I were an ordinary Egyptian on an average income, I would vote for them too ! It is a bit like voting for Tammany Hall if you are in a low income area of New York in the 1930s or 1940s. You have problems, you go and see the "Ward Boss"
The Islamists in the Brotherhood and orther organisations actually DO things for poor people. If I were an ordinary Egyptian on an average income, I would vote for them too ! It is a bit like voting for Tammany Hall if you are in a low income area of New York in the 1930s or 1940s. You have problems, you go and see the "Ward Boss"
I wonder what the middle east will look like if Egypt first, possibly an overthrow in Syria soon..and who knows, Jordan seems uneasy. A friend of mine is reporting in Syria, met alot of refugees there who are hell bent not to end up like the palestinians. Mostly christians. Then of course, there's Libya, Tunisia and whatever turmoil in the region we don't hear much if anything about. Interesting times.
