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Old Apr 24th 2013, 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by scot47
There is nearly as much nonsense talked about alcohol and addiction as about God !

Go and have a look at any city or town centre in Britain (not just Scotland)of an evening at the weekend and tell me there is no problem with booze !

Ostriches with heads in sand come to my mind !

And I certainly do not come from a Muslim background !
Hang on, according to the koran, everyone is born a muslim....
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Originally Posted by Kix
Hang on, according to the koran, everyone is born a muslim....
Hold it there.. Koran did not say that!, it was a saying of the prophet of Islam. He meant that the pure nature of humans before adultration with desires is islamic.
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Hold it there.. Koran did not say that!, it was a saying of the prophet of Islam. He meant that the pure nature of humans before adultration with desires is islamic.
So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
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Originally Posted by Scamp
So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
Wahay! I'm not then!

(We're divorced now).
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So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
Treble no.
1 You're not married (I think)
2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to)
3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state.

Sorry.
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Treble no.
1 You're not married (I think)
2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to)
3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state.

Sorry.
Adulteration - To make impure or inferior by adding foreign substances to something.

Why do I find that funny?
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
Treble no.
1 You're not married (I think)
2 Adulteration does not mean adultery (but you've commited adultery by having jiggy with someone you're not married to)
3 You've commited other sins so you're not in an innocent state.

Sorry.
Pfft. Thanks for point two. Made an assumption
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So I'm Islamic in my nature because I haven't cheated on my mrs?
Quite right but that will not make a Muslim, I am afraid. Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it. This faith refuses to be treated like a pizza resturant, as there is no room in Islam for 'design your own religion' kind of approach.

I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty
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Originally Posted by redShark
Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it.
And what is the penalty if you choose to leave it, apostasy?
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Originally Posted by redShark
in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty
Only if you're doing it right.
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Old Apr 24th 2013, 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by redShark
Quite right but that will not make a Muslim, I am afraid. Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it. This faith refuses to be treated like a pizza resturant, as there is no room in Islam for 'design your own religion' kind of approach.

I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty
There are a few million Muslims in the gcc alone that might need to hear your explanation
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Originally Posted by redShark
Quite right but that will not make a Muslim, I am afraid. Islam is a complete way of life. You either take the whole package or leave it. This faith refuses to be treated like a pizza resturant, as there is no room in Islam for 'design your own religion' kind of approach.

I actually was in a rush when I wrote the previous post. I should have said 'wrong desires'. Not all desires are bad in the eyes of Islam. For example, sex is viewed as a good act if it was done in the rightful environment, which is marriage. There is a saying by the prophet of Islam to the effect that, every time a man makes love to his wife both of them will be rewarded by God for that act just in the same way they would get a sin if they had done outside marriage. I believe this concept in Christanity is quite different because in Christanity the act of sex in general is looked upon as dirty
I am a Quaker, and thus peaceful, but if you were stupid enough ( very likely) to come into my orbit, I would wring your ******** neck.
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Originally Posted by Kix
Adulteration - To make impure or inferior by adding foreign substances to something.

Why do I find that funny?
So water = good
and
Soda = bad ?
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Originally Posted by shiva
There are a few million Muslims in the gcc alone that might need to hear your explanation
Is all the stuff going on in the mosques not like the RC's, a few hail marys and our fathers and you're OK, back to square one?
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Originally Posted by mikewot
Is all the stuff going on in the mosques not like the RC's, a few hail marys and our fathers and you're OK, back to square one?
Your think so given the behavious and attendance at Friday prayers
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