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Afternoon,

Anyone got a piece of legislation / law on hours in Ramadan?

We are having the debate at the moment and are being told it's expected for us to work normal hours.

Only a few in the office will be fasting, they worked shorter hours last summer but generally I ****ed off about 3pm (to play golf normally).

This year it looks like our boss is in the office the whole time, and his expectation normally is a 7/8pm finish.

So, the question is; what's the baseline law on this in Dubai and is it enforced?

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Originally Posted by Scamp
Afternoon,

Anyone got a piece of legislation / law on hours in Ramadan?

We are having the debate at the moment and are being told it's expected for us to work normal hours.

Only a few in the office will be fasting, they worked shorter hours last summer but generally I ****ed off about 3pm (to play golf normally).

This year it looks like our boss is in the office the whole time, and his expectation normally is a 7/8pm finish.

So, the question is; what's the baseline law on this in Dubai and is it enforced?

Thanks

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Yes it is enforced, and the Labour Law stipulates 6 Hours Per Day, Per Person. The Labour Law does not discriminate between Moslem and Non-Moslem! - The Law applies to all! Been there, have the Medals, Cups and Tee Shirts!

The Old Bitch I used to work for would insist that I came to the office at 11:00PM She had gone onto 'Nightshift' just so that she could eat Crisps and Chocolate from her Handbag! - you can probably guess what my response was!

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maximum hours is 8 per day and this should be reduced by 2 in Ramadan, regardless of religion

you're entitled to o/t for anything over the 6

good luck getting it although the boss at our place insists we all piss off at 2
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I wont even bother opening the showroom until 8pm. A month of laying in bed until the afternoon, golf and the pool.
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maximum hours is 8 per day and this should be reduced by 2 in Ramadan, regardless of religion

you're entitled to o/t for anything over the 6

good luck getting it although the boss at our place insists we all piss off at 2
So far this year the mantra from the Director is;

"Ramadan doesn't exist"
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So far this year the mantra from the Director is;

"Ramadan doesn't exist"
Good luck getting hold of anyone between 3 and 7
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So far this year the mantra from the Director is;

"Ramadan doesn't exist"
Muslim? Schmizlim?

In Saudi all of the locals bugger-off for a month! I worked normal hours (9 Per Day) and was not allowed water, tea, coffee or food! Happy Ramadan Everyone!

Just tell them that when it is Christmas they WILL eat Mince Pies and a Turkey Dinner! - And that 25th December is a day when we do not work!

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Had a saudi client a few years ago close the office in daylight hours, twat was calling me at 2.00am etc genuinely surprised that the rest of the world was asleep.
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Good luck getting hold of anyone between 3 and 7
Don't get me started. It was pointless being here after 2pm last year. Not sure what is going to change.

The angle at the moment goes towards hitting the European clients of ours. I pointed out that most of them are going to be closed shops as well, because it's the law.

But thanks for the notes on the law, useful to know.
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Muslim? Schmizlim?

In Saudi all of the locals bugger-off for a month! I worked normal hours (9 Per Day) and was not allowed water, tea, coffee or food! Happy Ramadan Everyone!
We're quite lucky. We've only got 3 Muslim staff in our office.

All of them are British and all said last year that they didn't mind us all eating normally etc.

As a collective, we just didn't take the piss.....so no Maccy D's delivered for a month etc.
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So far this year the mantra from the Director is;

"Ramadan doesn't exist"
When you set-up business in the Middle East, Ramadan, and all other religious holidays have to be taken account of! - You cannot have one or the other!
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When you set-up business in the Middle East, Ramadan, and all other religious holidays have to be taken account of! - You cannot have one or the other!
My company has a Policy of not employing Moslems! - We do not employ members of the same family, so 'Brothers' are all excluded!

Do not take this the wrong way! - Just take a look at the Job Ads in the Gulf News! I am just using the above as 'Reverse Politics!'

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Article 65
The maximum normal working hours for adult workers shall be eight hours in the day, 48 hours in the week. They may be increased to nine hours a day in commercial establishments, hotels, cafeterias, security services and such other businesses as may be added by resolution of the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs. The daily working hours may be reduced by resolution of the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs, in the case of arduous or health-hazardous work.

Two during the month of Ramadan shall reduce the normal working hours. The periods spent by a worker in traveling between his home and place of work shall not be included in his working hours.
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Article 65
The maximum normal working hours for adult workers shall be eight hours in the day, 48 hours in the week. They may be increased to nine hours a day in commercial establishments, hotels, cafeterias, security services and such other businesses as may be added by resolution of the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs. The daily working hours may be reduced by resolution of the Minister of Labour and Social Affairs, in the case of arduous or health-hazardous work.

Two during the month of Ramadan shall reduce the normal working hours. The periods spent by a worker in traveling between his home and place of work shall not be included in his working hours.
Errrr....see above ^^^^


Our company has been following a "reduced working hours during Ramadan" policy since it was set up some six years ago. But the new head of HR has decided that any non-fasting employee should work regular hours and only those who are fasting get to leave earlier. This has not gone down well with the rest of the people because we do not get paid overtime for the additional working hours. What is the legal situation? A lot of companies do not work reduced hours, but if that is against the law, can the company be penalised or forced to comply? - JG Dubai
Ramadan Labour law ADCWorkers' rights On your side

Article 65 of UAE Labour Law states: "During the month of Ramadan, normal working hours shall be reduced by two hours." Because the company is breaking the law by not offering shorter working hours to everyone, you can report it to the Ministry of Labour, which should investigate, insist the law be enforced and, in some cases, fine companies. The Ministry of Labour's help line number is 800 665.
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