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Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 9:22 am

Racism Explained
 
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mentalist Oct 23rd 2012 9:36 am

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That is a stupid and offensive cartoon. :thumbdown:

NorthernLad Oct 23rd 2012 9:59 am

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345036)
That is a stupid and offensive cartoon. :thumbdown:

No it's not.

Alexa Oct 23rd 2012 10:07 am

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345036)
That is a stupid and offensive cartoon. :thumbdown:

Maybe so...but try it...you will find out it is also something else...TRUE.

Theseus Oct 23rd 2012 10:12 am

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 10345078)
Maybe so...but try it...you will find out it is also something else...TRUE.

Have you actually ever spoken to anyone of another race?

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 10:14 am

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345036)
That is a stupid and offensive cartoon. :thumbdown:

How about: A black man can call another black man a nigger. A white man can call another white man a honky. A black man can call a white man a honky. But...

Why?

And for the grown-ups, I hadn't seen the need to put below the cartoon: "Discuss. Or just smile inwardly."

Alexa Oct 23rd 2012 10:26 am

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Originally Posted by Theseus (Post 10345082)
Have you actually ever spoken to anyone of another race?

No, never.

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 10:27 am

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Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 10:49 am

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And in a similar vein:

EU commissioners are due to debate proposals that would force quotas for women on corporate boards.

The debate comes after the European Parliament criticised the lack of female candidates for the European Central Bank (ECB).

A parliamentary committee - in a resolution passed by 21 votes to 12, with 13 absentions - called on the European Council to withdraw the candidacy of Luxembourg's Yves Mersch for the ECB executive board, saying his appointment would mean that the board would be all male up until 2018.


So, Yves, you can't have the job because of your gender. Unfair discrimination is WRONG. How simple can it be?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20039540

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 23rd 2012 11:01 am

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Chuckles loudly.

That's brilliant as far as generalisations go.

Brains1983 Oct 23rd 2012 11:19 am

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:rofl:


Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10345027)
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Brains1983 Oct 23rd 2012 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345036)
That is a stupid and offensive cartoon. :thumbdown:

Knob

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 23rd 2012 11:37 am

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Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10345169)
Knob

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl:

britexpat76 Oct 23rd 2012 11:59 am

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Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10345169)
Knob

:thumbup:

Miss Anne Thrope Oct 23rd 2012 12:05 pm

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What an excellent explanation of racism because of course racism is basically unfairness to white people. Duh, how stupid are people that they can't see that? Segregation, Jim Crow, slavery, bananas being thrown at footballers, apartheid, sharply higher unemployment rate of black graduates, disparity of income etc etc. All because white people can't say just exactly what's on their mind due to political correctness gone mad. Why can't people see who the real victims are (hint: the pale males clinging to most of the money and power)?

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 23rd 2012 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10345242)
What an excellent explanation of racism because of course racism is basically unfairness to white people. Duh, how stupid are people that they can't see that? Segregation, Jim Crow, slavery, bananas being thrown at footballers, apartheid, sharply higher unemployment rate of black graduates, disparity of income etc etc. All because white people can't say just exactly what's on their mind due to political correctness gone mad. Why can't people see who the real victims are (hint: the ones with most of the money and power)?

I think, on the basis of it being a cartoon....it's probably not meant to be taken that seriously.

Miss Anne Thrope Oct 23rd 2012 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10345246)
I think, on the basis of it being a cartoon....it's probably not meant to be taken that seriously.

On the basis of it being a cartoon, it should also be funny.

scrubbedexpat141 Oct 23rd 2012 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10345251)
On the basis of it being a cartoon, it should also be funny.

I found it funny though. I'm sure other people did too. Just like you probably didn't find it funny and others won't.

:o

Dumbo Oct 23rd 2012 12:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 10345251)
On the basis of it being a cartoon, it should also be funny.

Agreed, it wasn't at all offensive, but it was pretty shit.

mentalist Oct 23rd 2012 12:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10345169)
Knob

Ignoramus. The only remotely funny thing about the cartoon is the certain knowledge that no black person would ever say such a thing. It's only what is in the white person's mind. My wife and daughter both found it offensive too. Are there any other non-whites on here who disagree?

littlejimmy Oct 23rd 2012 12:49 pm

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345287)
Ignoramus. The only remotely funny thing about the cartoon is the certain knowledge that no black person would ever say such a thing. It's only what is in the white person's mind. My wife and daughter both found it offensive too. Are there any other non-whites on here who disagree?

Have you considered that this might be exactly what the cartoon was portraying?

Boomhauer Oct 23rd 2012 12:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10345089)
How about: A black man can call another black man a nigger. A white man can call another white man a honky. A black man can call a white man a honky. But...

Why?

And for the grown-ups, I hadn't seen the need to put below the cartoon: "Discuss. Or just smile inwardly."

My best mate is as White as you can get (blond blue eyes) and one of his best friends is Black; my mate will sometimes call his black friend " whats up my ni$%a or ni#$er, and no one bats an eyelid cause it is the context and motive behind the comment that matters.

Within friends we used to call each other bastard or bitch but a stranger saying it is different.

Meow Oct 23rd 2012 12:54 pm

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Can we stop this stupid idea that only those with darker skin colours suffer from racism or prejudice? Certain groups may have had it worse, but it cuts many ways.

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 1:17 pm

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Originally Posted by mentalist (Post 10345287)
Ignoramus. The only remotely funny thing about the cartoon is the certain knowledge that no black person would ever say such a thing. It's only what is in the white person's mind. My wife and daughter both found it offensive too. Are there any other non-whites on here who disagree?

And there we have racial stereotyping crystalised.

mentalist Oct 23rd 2012 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 10345299)
Have you considered that this might be exactly what the cartoon was portraying?

i sincerely hope that you are right. As for the nigger word, it's probably the slave connotation that offends rather than colour. There is no white equivalent.

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 1:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 10345307)
My best mate is as White as you can get (blond blue eyes) and one of his best friends is Black; my mate will sometimes call his black friend " whats up my ni$%a or ni#$er, and no one bats an eyelid cause it is the context and motive behind the comment that matters.

Within friends we used to call each other bastard or bitch but a stranger saying it is different.

Fair point, but can you imagine a conversation between two strangers (one black, one white) which starts to get slightly heated, and the black guy says "honky". Mayhem is not likely to erupt. On the other hand...

Alexa Oct 23rd 2012 1:51 pm

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How about "Gora"...the word used for
"Whites" by Indians. It is used all the time.
Now if white people were to call Indians "Darkies".....

britexpat76 Oct 23rd 2012 1:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 10345401)
How about "Gora"...the word used for
"Whites" by Indians. It is used all the time.
Now if white people were to call Indians "Darkies".....

Why Darkies? They are Jinglys

Alexa Oct 23rd 2012 1:54 pm

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Originally Posted by britexpat76 (Post 10345403)
Why Darkies? They are Jinglys

Ok, what ever. So, what if?

Beakersful Oct 23rd 2012 2:12 pm

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My white friend with ginger hair was the subject of a racist incident by another white man the other night just because of the colour of his hair. The combined party group had to split up to avoid fighting. Fear of the "other" is generally what it's down to. Although lack of intelligence, socialisation and experience drives those fears too.

It didn't help that another white man in the offenders group was being a sexual predator towards the asian women in our group (even though they had asians in their group) using a racial platform as well. It really showed them up for their inadequacies.

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Beakersful (Post 10345431)
My white friend with ginger hair was the subject of a racist incident by another white man the other night just because of the colour of his hair. The combined party group had to split up to avoid fighting. Fear of the "other" is generally what it's down to. Although lack of intelligence, socialisation and experience drives those fears too.

It didn't help that another white man in the offenders group was being a sexual predator towards the asian women in our group (even though they had asians in their group) using a racial platform as well. It really showed them up for their inadequacies.

Fear of gingers? Seems unlikely. Being a prick sounds more like it, surrounded by other pricks (the sexual predator).

Or was your ginger friend being overly sensitive?

norsk Oct 23rd 2012 2:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 10345401)
How about "Gora"...the word used for
"Whites" by Indians. It is used all the time.
Now if white people were to call Indians "Darkies".....

There are examples of this kind of thing in all languages. The key difference is that in western society the terms tend to have become less racist over the last 50 years. This is definitely not the case in some non-western societies.

It has also become increasingly common for white people to become offended on behalf of non-white people. Sometimes the concern is justified, but most of the time they are just making it worse by putting more focus on what probably wasn't particularly racist at the outset...

shiva Oct 23rd 2012 2:41 pm

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im offended by people being ****ing offended these days.

Bahtatboy Oct 23rd 2012 2:49 pm

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Mentalist: I didn't post this to cause offence, nor with the hope, expectation or intention that it would degenerate into insults. It was to stimulate debate. You and your family took offence--I apologise for that, for none was intended.

I hate it when people say, "I'm sorry, but..." and then go on to qualify the apology to the extent that it is no longer an apology. So I won't do that. Genuinely, sorry if I caused you offence.

Alexa Oct 23rd 2012 3:26 pm

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Originally Posted by norsk (Post 10345445)
There are examples of this kind of thing in all languages. The key difference is that in western society the terms tend to have become less racist over the last 50 years. This is definitely not the case in some non-western societies.

It has also become increasingly common for white people to become offended on behalf of non-white people. Sometimes the concern is justified, but most of the time they are just making it worse by putting more focus on what probably wasn't particularly racist at the outset...

I can't agree that those terms have become less racist in Western society. At least not for me and the people I know.
I think racism in all its forms is disgusting. Emphasis on ALL its form Of course there are many cases where offense is taken for offenense's sake ...or some kind of agenda.Besides that , non white people can be just as racist as white people.
And yes, I have been upset by seeing people being treated awful because of their race, and I have, in some cases, intervened. Did it help? Probably not at the root cause, but I like to believe it did make the person feel better...in fact....the last time I witnessed such an incident, I was, after my intervention, upgraded to First class, all the way to Singapore :)

Meow Oct 23rd 2012 3:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Beakersful (Post 10345431)
My white friend with ginger hair was the subject of a racist incident by another white man the other night just because of the colour of his hair. The combined party group had to split up to avoid fighting. Fear of the "other" is generally what it's down to. Although lack of intelligence, socialisation and experience drives those fears too.

It didn't help that another white man in the offenders group was being a sexual predator towards the asian women in our group (even though they had asians in their group) using a racial platform as well. It really showed them up for their inadequacies.


Are gingers a race now?

Sally Redux Oct 23rd 2012 3:33 pm

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I don't agree that a black person would be offended by a white person saying, "I like being white."

As someone said earlier, the cartoon is just a white perspective.

kimilseung Oct 23rd 2012 3:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10345089)
How about: A black man can call another black man a nigger. A white man can call another white man a honky. A black man can call a white man a honky. But...

Why?

This is so out of date, just spell it 'nigga' in your head and anyone can call anyone else it, you just have to be wearing a baseball hat backwards.

norsk Oct 23rd 2012 3:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 10345558)
I can't agree that those terms have become less racist in Western society. At least not for me and the people I know.
I think racism in all its forms is disgusting. Emphasis on ALL its form Of course there are many cases where offense is taken for offenense's sake ...or some kind of agenda.Besides that , non white people can be just as racist as white people.
And yes, I have been upset by seeing people being treated awful because of their race, and I have, in some cases, intervened. Did it help? Probably not at the root cause, but I like to believe it did make the person feel better...in fact....the last time I witnessed such an incident, I was, after my intervention, upgraded to First class, all the way to Singapore :)

I'm not trying to justify racism by any means as it is despicable, but at least in Norway and the UK I know first hand that the language used commonly (by the man in the street) is vastly less offensive now than it was just 15 years ago. Of course I am a white man so I cannot possibly know how a person of colour would feel about it, but I have lived a multi-cultural (I can't believe you made me use that word - I despise it with a passion) life so I like to believe that I have at least some insight..

OriginalSunshine Oct 23rd 2012 4:21 pm

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Ok - here's a little firework to throw into the mix.

What do you assume in your own head when you see a middle aged white guy with an asian wife?


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