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Chris_m Aug 11th 2014 8:21 pm

Quick question for those in construction.
 
Whats a very rough price for a parking lot of 30,000 Sqft. Just now the land is unused sand. So it have to be dug out etc etc.

Thanks Chris

Bongoman2 Aug 12th 2014 1:22 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 
Any plot of unused sand can be turned into a working car park for the amazing price of zilch, zippo, squat by simply driving upon said sand.

It is a little known fact about a grain of sand that it has an amazing ability to act in unison with other grains of sand and so on and so forth until it becomes a solid base unto which vehicles of many tonnage can be driven upon with very little trouble whatsoever.

* The above advice has not been approved for Dubai Municipality Building Permit Department submission purposes.

Bahtatboy Aug 12th 2014 2:23 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Bongoman2 (Post 11366487)
Any plot of unused sand can be turned into a working car park for the amazing price of zilch, zippo, squat by simply driving upon said sand.

It is a little known fact about a grain of sand that it has an amazing ability to act in unison with other grains of sand and so on and so forth until it becomes a solid base unto which vehicles of many tonnage can be driven upon with very little trouble whatsoever.

* The above advice has not been approved for Dubai Municipality Building Permit Department submission purposes.

In that case, I'll have two, please. :D

Irishbeekeeper Aug 12th 2014 3:50 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 
I know of a company (from Pakistan) who are brilliant at civil engineering, here is a small example of the high levels of professionalism they display for any and all projects:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=276075395927223

Irishbeekeeper Aug 12th 2014 3:53 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Bongoman2 (Post 11366487)
Any plot of unused sand can be turned into a working car park for the amazing price of zilch, zippo, squat by simply driving upon said sand.

It is a little known fact about a grain of sand that it has an amazing ability to act in unison with other grains of sand and so on and so forth until it becomes a solid base unto which vehicles of many tonnage can be driven upon with very little trouble whatsoever.

* The above advice has not been approved for Dubai Municipality Building Permit Department submission purposes.

on the contrary Dr. Watson, if said vehicle is parked on said piece of land with said particles of sand, the RTA will probably either fine the said vehicle or have it towed. One has to pay through every orifice for everything as long as one is living in do-buy :)

Johnnyboy11 Aug 12th 2014 3:54 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 11366228)
Whats a very rough price for a parking lot of 30,000 Sqft. Just now the land is unused sand. So it have to be dug out etc etc.

Thanks Chris

Here's some info, from the UK in 2006 (prices won't have changed much since then - COPI has been relatively flat since the 2007 crash, but I'd add +20% weighting for the Middle East).

Beakersful Aug 12th 2014 6:27 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 11366629)
I know of a company (from Pakistan) who are brilliant at civil engineering, here is a small example of the high levels of professionalism they display for any and all projects:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=276075395927223


What's wrong with that?

Chris_m Aug 12th 2014 6:34 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Bongoman2 (Post 11366487)
Any plot of unused sand can be turned into a working car park for the amazing price of zilch, zippo, squat by simply driving upon said sand.

It is a little known fact about a grain of sand that it has an amazing ability to act in unison with other grains of sand and so on and so forth until it becomes a solid base unto which vehicles of many tonnage can be driven upon with very little trouble whatsoever.

* The above advice has not been approved for Dubai Municipality Building Permit Department submission purposes.

I'd rather things were done the right way rather than the Dubai way. Yes am aware compact the sand and all will be fine but really not the way i'm trying to go with the project



Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 11366629)
I know of a company (from Pakistan) who are brilliant at civil engineering, here is a small example of the high levels of professionalism they display for any and all projects:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=276075395927223

Yeah, I wont be calling them. But thanks for the heads up in case they try and quote.



Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 11366636)
Here's some info, from the UK in 2006 (prices won't have changed much since then - COPI has been relatively flat since the 2007 crash, but I'd add +20% weighting for the Middle East).

Much appreciated will have a read through and see what i can make sense of.

Chris

hong_konger Aug 12th 2014 2:16 pm

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 11366228)
Whats a very rough price for a parking lot of 30,000 Sqft. Just now the land is unused sand. So it have to be dug out etc etc.

Thanks Chris

A typical Client !! Total lack of any Specification.
When the car park ends up being 3 basements, and 5 elevated floors, half with electric vehicle charging facilities, state of the art automatic barriers and charging systems and the contractor puts his bill in, the Client will say but you should have known that this was what was required. Your not getting any extra.

Show us your drawings then we give you an estimate..

:sarcasm:

Chris_m Aug 12th 2014 5:48 pm

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by hong_konger (Post 11367195)
A typical Client !! Total lack of any Specification.
When the car park ends up being 3 basements, and 5 elevated floors, half with electric vehicle charging facilities, state of the art automatic barriers and charging systems and the contractor puts his bill in, the Client will say but you should have known that this was what was required. Your not getting any extra.

Show us your drawings then we give you an estimate..

:sarcasm:

All i want is a flat surface of approx 30,000Sq Ft, no less no more!!

mikewot Aug 12th 2014 6:02 pm

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Chris_m (Post 11367295)
All i want is a flat surface of approx 30,000Sq Ft, no less no more!!

Flat surface of what? Sand, gravel, tarmac, grass? Do you want it edged? Should it be drained, if so what sort of drainage? Entry & exit lanes, signage?
I guess you've never written requirements ;)

Irishbeekeeper Aug 12th 2014 9:49 pm

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 
oh gawd, no more talk of drainage please! worked with some boys out of belfast making an airport runway, they were ALWAYS talking about drainage and pipes and bloody bichumen!
5 years of such exciting conversations and now I get excited watching the grass grow ffs!
:D

Millhouse Aug 12th 2014 11:36 pm

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 
you're all focusing on the surface: No one has asked it is covered or uncovered.

shiva Aug 13th 2014 12:36 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 11367572)
you're all focusing on the surface: No one has asked it is covered or uncovered.

a more pertinent initial question might be where?

Millhouse Aug 13th 2014 2:33 am

Re: Quick question for those in construction.
 

Originally Posted by shiva (Post 11367641)
a more pertinent initial question might be where?

and when


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