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Old Mar 13th 2013, 2:11 pm
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Generally which systems are used here in the ME for Project Management. Prince2? Or is there no system and it just kinda works (or doesn't), or is there another system?

Toying with a career change and while some of my skills would transfer, I may need to look at some external training - just interested in what the thoughts are as I guess there will be several PMs in either O+G, construction or A.N.Other industry.
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Old Mar 13th 2013, 2:16 pm
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PRINCE2, seems to be standard, at least in my industry. Although I'm not a practitioner, only on the receiving end.
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Generally which systems are used here in the ME for Project Management. Prince2? Or is there no system and it just kinda works (or doesn't), or is there another system?

Toying with a career change and while some of my skills would transfer, I may need to look at some external training - just interested in what the thoughts are as I guess there will be several PMs in either O+G, construction or A.N.Other industry.
I'm not sure if PMP is similar, I just know in IT there are lot of them. And a lot of them are shite.
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PMP is most used in ME for all industries Agile & Scrum for the Software Industry.
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Lean Six Sigma , Agile and PMP are used here a lot at least for airport projects and metro etc as far as I know.

Also make sure you know how to use MSP and Primavera P6.
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i assume APM is still not regarded in the ME?
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Generally which systems are used here in the ME for Project Management. Prince2? Or is there no system and it just kinda works (or doesn't), or is there another system?

Toying with a career change and while some of my skills would transfer, I may need to look at some external training - just interested in what the thoughts are as I guess there will be several PMs in either O+G, construction or A.N.Other industry.
An awful lot of PMP in construction, especially with Arabs as its a pretty easy qualification to get. (sorry to all PMP people out there ) In my opinion its fairly worthless.

Your project management qualifications won't transfer into any meaningful roles in construction or oil and gas really as you will have to have some kind of engineering/construction background in the first place. However something like a logistics or supply manager etc might be possible.

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I don't actually have a project management qualification at all - I keep meaning to go and get one. I'm a successful PM though. Right place right time I guess.
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Lean Six Sigma ,
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I don't actually have a project management qualification at all - I keep meaning to go and get one. I'm a successful PM though. Right place right time I guess.
Not required in my opinion to be honest especially in construction; experience and a proper construction degree is the key.
I am faced with these mid 30s or 40s guys constantly who are qualified up to the hilt but have absolutely no real experience and basically just work through check sheets.
While we have a good few ourselves usually the PM companies are stocked with these guys, QPM in Doha come (painfully) to mind.
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Primavera & Excel. Because the ITards can't work out how to get us licences for anything else.
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Primavera & Excel. Because the ITards won't pay to get us licences for anything else.
more likely scenario I'd say
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nah - that'd be management that won't pay.
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Not required in my opinion to be honest especially in construction; experience and a proper construction degree is the key.
I am faced with these mid 30s or 40s guys constantly who are qualified up to the hilt but have absolutely no real experience and basically just work through check sheets.
While we have a good few ourselves usually the PM companies are stocked with these guys, QPM in Doha come (painfully) to mind.
I don't have a proper conrstruction degree either - just a bog standard HNC for me!

I'm actually in an operational change management type role now anyway, so not huge amounts of construction. The problem with not having the little bits of paper is that people like scamp will throw your CV in the bin without finding out if you might actually be really ****ing good at what you do. Not their fault at all, but still annoying.
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I don't have a proper conrstruction degree either - just a bog standard HNC for me!

I'm actually in an operational change management type role now anyway, so not huge amounts of construction. The problem with not having the little bits of paper is that people like scamp will throw your CV in the bin without finding out if you might actually be really ****ing good at what you do. Not their fault at all, but still annoying.
I am sure the more administrative type stuff shouldn't require qualifications to that degree, its probably more about a good organisational style or system.
Other than that however I wouldn't employ anyone in construction without a related qualification, other than supervisors.

Why not do something now degree related, in case at some point it might limit moving up in your career. Easy for me to say of course, but bloody hard to do
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