Originally Posted by Madam Medusa

i think harry is great...but he must know better than to do this stuff, it's almost as if he is courting bad publicity...

MM, xx

Originally Posted by Bison

Prince Harry has been embroiled in a fresh race row after a video showing him using racist insults was obtained by the News Of The World.


Prince Harry in the video obtained by the News of the World



The newspaper reports that the tape was made by the third in line to the throne during his Army training.

It says the prince is heard calling one Asian trainee "our little Paki friend".

The newspaper reported that the videotape was shot by the prince as he was about to embark on training as a combat helicopter pilot in an airport for their flight to Cyprus.

Panning around the floor, over his bored or sleeping fellow trainees, he says: "This is luxury. And here is our first example of possibly how to admin yourself (meaning take care of yourself and your kit) in the terminal awaiting the RAF."

Focusing on his colleagues, Harry comments "now that is bad admin, bad admin" before it tracking over and zooming in on an Asian cadet yards away.

"Anybody else around here?" he asks. "Ah, our little Paki friend... Ahmed."

Ahmed is thought to be Ahmed Raza Khan, a Pakistani who won the award for the best overseas cadet at Sandhurst.

In a separate incident, the 24-year-old is heard calling another officer cadet who is jokingly wearing a veil on his head a "f***ing raghead".


Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.

Statement from Clarence House

The video, shot in 2006, also shows the Prince joking about his grandmother the Queen - who is Commander in Chief of the British Army - in front of other cadets.

With his Army friends watching on, he is filmed making a joke call to her, saying: "Granny I've got to go, got to go, send my love to the Corgis and Grandpa."

He signs off by saying in front of them: "I've got to go, got to go, bye. God Save You... yeah, that's great."

Referring to the use of the word "Paki", a statement from Clarence House said: "Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term can be - and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause.

"However, on this occasion three years ago, Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.

"There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend."

It added that he was using the term "raghead" to mean "Taliban" or "Iraqi insurgent".

Originally Posted by Gray C

Think about & strip it down ... is it really racist calling a guy from Pakistan a Paki? It's ok to call an Australian an Aussie , and someone from Poland a Pole, someone from Sweden a Swede , Turkey a Turk , Scotland a Scot etc etc etc, so WHY oh WHY is that you get called a racist just because you say Paki?

I used to know a Pakistani woman who called her fellow countrymen and women "Pakis". So if they are OK with it I personally do not see what all the fuss is about. After all I am British but do not get offended when I am called a "Brit"

There is far far too much PC in the UK nowadays in my opinion.

If you think I am being racist, you are welcome to your opinion.

Originally Posted by Gray C

Think about & strip it down ... is it really racist calling a guy from Pakistan a Paki? It's ok to call an Australian an Aussie , and someone from Poland a Pole, someone from Sweden a Swede , Turkey a Turk , Scotland a Scot etc etc etc, so WHY oh WHY is that you get called a racist just because you say Paki?

I used to know a Pakistani woman who called her fellow countrymen and women "Pakis". So if they are OK with it I personally do not see what all the fuss is about. After all I am British but do not get offended when I am called a "Brit"

There is far far too much PC in the UK nowadays in my opinion.

If you think I am being racist, you are welcome to your opinion.

Originally Posted by lionheart

Having read a fairly lengthy thread on this very topic on the Canada Forum, the consensus there seems to be that "it really depends on the context". In this case, I believe Harry's remarks to be harmless but, if somebody shouted out in a crowded pub "look out the Paki is coming" or words to that effect, it would probably be deemed offensive. Just my two penny worth.

Originally Posted by commander

totally agree,
its all about the context..

Originally Posted by Autonomy

However for someone in their 20s, Uni educated, to use it not defendable.

Originally Posted by Autonomy

No it's not - for years Paki has been a racial slur, ALWAYS meant in a totally derogatary and offensive way. A term ALWAYs associated with negative connotations and regulary used by raciast groups.

If you were born in the 1940s then through language and attitudes as you grow up in the 50s and 60s then it can be excusable.

If you are Pakistani then i think you can use it as a badge of pride I think.

However for someone in their 20s, Uni educated, to use it not defendable.

Who here on the forum uses this term?

Originally Posted by commander

so its the same with 'Jock" then or is that just i bit of fun?

what about 'Chinky'

Originally Posted by annacarna

or paddy:curse: