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Thought I'd strike up a controversial debate to end the week

The London Science Museum has cancelled a talk by the Nobel prize-winning geneticist Dr James Watson because he suggested that Black people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Is this a correct decision or just the stifling of an interesting debate on PC grounds? Would the same have happened if he had suggested that Black people were genetically superior Athletes?

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Thought I'd strike up a controversial debate to end the week

The London Science Museum has cancelled a talk by the Nobel prize-winning geneticist Dr James Watson because he suggested that Black people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Is this a correct decision or just the stifling of an interesting debate on PC grounds? Would the same have happened if he had suggested that Black people were genetically superior Athletes?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200710...011ccfa_2.html
Would the black people be offended if he said that genetically they have bigger wieners???
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Thought I'd strike up a controversial debate to end the week

The London Science Museum has cancelled a talk by the Nobel prize-winning geneticist Dr James Watson because he suggested that Black people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Is this a correct decision or just the stifling of an interesting debate on PC grounds? Would the same have happened if he had suggested that Black people were genetically superior Athletes?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200710...011ccfa_2.html
Oh, the old "less intelligent" chestnut again. Yes, it is a valid scientific question to ask, and if addressed in a scientific way it is fine to discuss it and debate results (and as far as I have read, when you normalize for difference in educational background, the IQ distribution curve for black people is no different than it is for white people, brown people or yellow people). However, comments like "anyone who has ever employed black people will know that they are less intelligent" are not scientific statements, they are prejudicial. Yet this is a public quote by Dr Watson.

On the basis of comments of his that are clearly racist, I think the Science Museum is quite justified in deciding to cancel the speech. It is not suppression of Dr Watson's rights - he is free to make whatever statements he likes. But the Science Museum has clearly made a decision and a public statement that says to the public that they do not share or condone his views.
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Thought I'd strike up a controversial debate to end the week

The London Science Museum has cancelled a talk by the Nobel prize-winning geneticist Dr James Watson because he suggested that Black people are genetically less intelligent than white people. Is this a correct decision or just the stifling of an interesting debate on PC grounds? Would the same have happened if he had suggested that Black people were genetically superior Athletes?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200710...011ccfa_2.html
I cannot believe that someone of his stature would make such a blatant statement in a place like London. If he did it in Dubai, no one would bat an eyelid!!
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I cannot believe that someone of his stature would make such a blatant statement in a place like London. If he did it in Dubai, no one would bat an eyelid!!
Stature ? Hah! He and Crick stole the idea from Rosalind & Franklin. Pair of charlatans.
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Stature ? Hah! He and Crick stole the idea from Rosalind & Franklin. Pair of charlatans.
You get my drift nevertheless!
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Oh, the old "less intelligent" chestnut again. Yes, it is a valid scientific question to ask, and if addressed in a scientific way it is fine to discuss it and debate results (and as far as I have read, when you normalize for difference in educational background, the IQ distribution curve for black people is no different than it is for white people, brown people or yellow people). However, comments like "anyone who has ever employed black people will know that they are less intelligent" are not scientific statements, they are prejudicial. Yet this is a public quote by Dr Watson.

On the basis of comments of his that are clearly racist, I think the Science Museum is quite justified in deciding to cancel the speech. It is not suppression of Dr Watson's rights - he is free to make whatever statements he likes. But the Science Museum has clearly made a decision and a public statement that says to the public that they do not share or condone his views.

surely it would have been better to allow the talk and have free and open debate about it though?
If people shoot him down with facts it does more than cancelling his talk could ever do!
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surely it would have been better to allow the talk and have free and open debate about it though?
If people shoot him down with facts it does more than cancelling his talk could ever do!
yes, but it was scheduled as a lecture, not a debate.
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its not fun starting this sort of debate when the fundamentalists are not around
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its not fun starting this sort of debate when the fundamentalists are not around
i'll pose as a gay native american maoist jew if you think it'll add fuel to the fire...
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i'll pose as a gay native american maoist jew if you think it'll add fuel to the fire...
i thought you were!
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i thought you were!
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Black people are less intelligent









...than me

Everyone is!!!
 
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Everyone is!!!
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Everyone is!!!
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