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Old Jul 10th 2013, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by weasel decentral
Sell the debt to a collection agency?
Do they exist here and how much do they charge/ take?
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Old Jul 10th 2013, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by shiva
Do they exist here and how much do they charge/ take?
I am sure they exist in Dubai, the banks seem to use them for collecting old loans etc.
As far as I know basically they should make a percentage offer on the debt based on their ability or confidence to collect it. As in your case its a solvent company then perhaps they would buy it outright or a percentage fee of the debt on successful recovery.

edit to say by selling it you might only get 10-20% but on a commission basis they might take 30% for successful recovery. (just based on a firm I knew in ireland)

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Originally Posted by shiva
I have shitty client who has been sitting on an unpaid invoice for four months now.
I could of course go legal but I'd rather not go down that path as they are a pretty ****ing huge company and have considerably more in house lawyers than I do.

I have however found a man in India who will call anyone I want 100 times a day for $100

Question is do I unleash the phone pest with a nice polite script asking for payment?

How long would you last or how annoying would you find 100 calls a day about the same thing?
surely its a fact of life here, wait until they start to haggle the price down if they are going to pay. thats what happened in the "dubai bubble".
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Originally Posted by busybee2
surely its a fact of life here, .
not wrong bb2

and because it is a fact of life here they assume you have topped up the claim anyways

really stupid system/culture
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What does this company (your non-paying scumbag) actually do? I mean, what line of work are they in?

Send a 'would-be' client to meet them and place a huge order, string them along a bit, then cancel it......... they will ask why - well, it's because I heard a rumour that you are not reliable etc etc........
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Old Jul 11th 2013, 3:42 am
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What does this company (your non-paying scumbag) actually do? I mean, what line of work are they in?

Send a 'would-be' client to meet them and place a huge order, string them along a bit, then cancel it......... they will ask why - well, it's because I heard a rumour that you are not reliable etc etc........
As a ruse I like it , for it to be believable I'd need to invest a sizeable sum. Not worth it.
They are a construction supplies company in a pretty technical niche, I'd need architectural drawings and people who knew what they were talking about etc. way to complicated but I do like the idea

As I said **** it I'm walking away my revenge will be slow and sweet
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I have however found a man in India who will call anyone I want 100 times a day for $100

For how long ???

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Old Jul 11th 2013, 5:52 am
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I have however found a man in India who will call anyone I want 100 times a day for $100

For how long ???

Per day for presumably as long as you pay him.

He's actually dropped his price as its seems popular and there are now a few doing it for $50 or less
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Per day for presumably as long as you pay him.

He's actually dropped his price as its seems popular and there are now a few doing it for $50 or less
Do they guarantee an answer?
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Do they guarantee an answer?
doubt it and even if they did its third world cheapo outsourcing so any guarantee would be worthless anyway
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Originally Posted by shiva
doubt it and even if they did its third world cheapo outsourcing so any guarantee would be worthless anyway
Yeah, stupid question.

You need to read The Twits and use some of their ideas.
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Old Jul 11th 2013, 7:17 am
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I had an issue with a local clinic, I named them on twitter. After a few phone calls of apology from them I received a full refund in cash delivered to my front door this morning. Hope you get it sorted out
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
Sounds good, but what the hell is it?
the watered down version : we normal users use latops or pcs for the internet, the website that we visit are man made and are kept (hosted) on large machines kept in big locked up rooms. Those machines are called servers. Just like all of us have individual phone numbers and no 2 phone numbers are alike (within the same country atleast), every server has a distinct IP address to identify it to the rest of the world. Like when you type in www.britishexpats.com your request is taken to the IP 98.58.194.XYZ and connected within seconds (depending upon the speed of your internet connection) to that server. Btw a server can host more than one website.
So a popular way to bring a website down is to ping it (like calling it) again and again. When enough people do it again and again, the server, which is designed to cater for all incoming requests, sometimes cannot handle too many in one go and will crash. This act is called DDOSing a server (distributed denial of service). Sort of like choking it. It is illegal ofcourse and not in use anymore as now its pretty easy to trace who started the attack.

fyi : A few years ago a brilliant mind came up with a trojan which would go get into and sit dormant in an unsuspecting PC. In time that trojan spread to quite a few PCs around the world (it was estimated in the thousands if not more) Once the owner of that trojan sitting in a remote location would need a ddos attack on anyone, he would just send the command and those unsuspecting computers would start sending out the attacks. What was brilliant was the fact that the owner was in no way implicated. I remember reading somewhere that now this service of using 'zombie pcs' is up for sale and anyone with enough money and more importantly enough contacts in the hacker world can hire them.
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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper
the watered down version : we normal users use latops or pcs for the internet, the website that we visit are man made and are kept (hosted) on large machines kept in big locked up rooms. Those machines are called servers. Just like all of us have individual phone numbers and no 2 phone numbers are alike (within the same country atleast), every server has a distinct IP address to identify it to the rest of the world. Like when you type in www.britishexpats.com your request is taken to the IP 98.58.194.XYZ and connected within seconds (depending upon the speed of your internet connection) to that server. Btw a server can host more than one website.
So a popular way to bring a website down is to ping it (like calling it) again and again. When enough people do it again and again, the server, which is designed to cater for all incoming requests, sometimes cannot handle too many in one go and will crash. This act is called DDOSing a server (distributed denial of service). Sort of like choking it. It is illegal ofcourse and not in use anymore as now its pretty easy to trace who started the attack.

fyi : A few years ago a brilliant mind came up with a trojan which would go get into and sit dormant in an unsuspecting PC. In time that trojan spread to quite a few PCs around the world (it was estimated in the thousands if not more) Once the owner of that trojan sitting in a remote location would need a ddos attack on anyone, he would just send the command and those unsuspecting computers would start sending out the attacks. What was brilliant was the fact that the owner was in no way implicated. I remember reading somewhere that now this service of using 'zombie pcs' is up for sale and anyone with enough money and more importantly enough contacts in the hacker world can hire them.
afaik its not even particularly hard to hire a zombie network. those pesky russian hacker groups are estimated to control (when they want) about 25% of pc's in europe. couple thousand quid and they'll do whatever you ask them to.
prertty scary really and i wonder how long before a government hires them to crash an entire country shortly before an invasion
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PM me the company name just on the off chance I might know them or someone working there
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