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Nice to see that UK income tax is being put to good use back home. A modest AED42,000 per month housing benefit is being paid to a family separated from their solicitor husband.

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Nice to see that UK income tax is being put to good use back home. A modest AED42,000 per month housing benefit is being paid to a family separated from their solicitor husband.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...referrer=yahoo
The thing on her head gives a good clue as to why this has been allowed to happen.
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Nice to see that UK income tax is being put to good use back home. A modest AED42,000 per month housing benefit is being paid to a family separated from their solicitor husband.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...referrer=yahoo
not the first time she has been in the papers
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Nice to see that UK income tax is being put to good use back home. A modest AED42,000 per month housing benefit is being paid to a family separated from their solicitor husband.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...referrer=yahoo
Good right wing fodder for middle England,nothing gets the blood boiling more than reading stories like this over tea and crumpets.
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Good right wing fodder for middle England,nothing gets the blood boiling more than reading stories like this over tea and crumpets.
...and rightly so, it's a bloody disgrace...and no, not because of her race, colour, gender or creed but because it's totally unnecessary.
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...and rightly so, it's a bloody disgrace...and no, not because of her race, colour, gender or creed but because it's totally unnecessary.
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right... firstly, how many 5 bedroom properties *in London* do you think are worth less than £1million nowadays? The old pokey 2 bed terrace on a A-road in SE9 we used to rent was worth £250k 4 years ago.

Secondly, so she gets £15k in other benefits to live off? How far do you think that'll stretch feeding, clothing and looking after 7 in London?

These articles get my goat - not because people "abuse" benefits (which some do) but because they call for a clamp-down on them rather than dealing with the cause.

Why doesn't the article look into why the husband is no longer there or why he isn't actually providing for the family he helped create? Ok, the woman could also be "at fault", but raising 6 kids on one's own could hardly be considered a fun and stress-free lifestyle option.

I have a friend whose partner walked out on her and their 18 month old child, leaving her to foot their joint mortgage and deal with everything else herself. He gives her the bare minimum of maintenance by law. Thank God benefits are there to help out...
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right... firstly, how many 5 bedroom properties *in London* do you think are worth less than £1million nowadays? The old pokey 2 bed terrace on a A-road in SE9 we used to rent was worth £250k 4 years ago.

Secondly, so she gets £15k in other benefits to live off? How far do you think that'll stretch feeding, clothing and looking after 7 in London?

These articles get my goat - not because people "abuse" benefits (which some do) but because they call for a clamp-down on them rather than dealing with the cause.

Why doesn't the article look into why the husband is no longer there or why he isn't actually providing for the family he helped create? Ok, the woman could also be "at fault", but raising 6 kids on one's own could hardly be considered a fun and stress-free lifestyle option.

I have a friend whose partner walked out on her and their 18 month old child, leaving her to foot their joint mortgage and deal with everything else herself. He gives her the bare minimum of maintenance by law. Thank God benefits are there to help out...
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Ah, and for all those who'd say "ach, get her to work then!"... well, for her to put all her 6 kids in full-time childcare, in order for her to get a full-time job (based on an average nursery cost of £35 per day, based on 48 weeks of nursery per year)... she'd have to pay, wait for it... £50,400 per year on childcare alone.

On that kind of money, she'd be above any benefit limit, so would have to foot everything else herself, so lets say add on a "normal" family wage of £30k per year... tax on top of that... so, approx £100k, 9h-17h job.

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right... firstly, how many 5 bedroom properties *in London* do you think are worth less than £1million nowadays? The old pokey 2 bed terrace on a A-road in SE9 we used to rent was worth £250k 4 years ago.

Secondly, so she gets £15k in other benefits to live off? How far do you think that'll stretch feeding, clothing and looking after 7 in London?

These articles get my goat - not because people "abuse" benefits (which some do) but because they call for a clamp-down on them rather than dealing with the cause.

Why doesn't the article look into why the husband is no longer there or why he isn't actually providing for the family he helped create? Ok, the woman could also be "at fault", but raising 6 kids on one's own could hardly be considered a fun and stress-free lifestyle option.

I have a friend whose partner walked out on her and their 18 month old child, leaving her to foot their joint mortgage and deal with everything else herself. He gives her the bare minimum of maintenance by law. Thank God benefits are there to help out...
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concise!

Ah, and for all those who'd say "ach, get her to work then!"... well, for her to put all her 6 kids in full-time childcare, in order for her to get a full-time job (based on an average nursery cost of £35 per day, based on 48 weeks of nursery per year)... she'd have to pay, wait for it... £50,400 per year on childcare alone.

On that kind of money, she'd be above any benefit limit, so would have to foot everything else herself, so lets say add on a "normal" family wage of £30k per year... tax on top of that... so, approx £100k, 9h-17h job.

Easy.
No-one said she should be expected to work and look after 6 kids. However, are you saying it's right that the benefits for this one family should amount to almost £100'000 per annum? That does not include any benefit that hubby may be getting in Derby (why isn't she there and why isn't he contributing?)

I'm all for supporting people who are down on their luck, but there are limits!
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No-one said she should be expected to work and look after 6 kids. However, are you saying it's right that the benefits for this one family should amount to almost £100'000 per annum? That does not include any benefit that hubby may be getting in Derby (why isn't she there and why isn't he contributing?)

I'm all for supporting people who are down on their luck, but there are limits!
No, my point was that the father should damned well have the balls to follow up his actions.

Lots of the comments on the Daily Wail site were aimed at the mum, saying she should go back to work, but in fact, if the dad really has washed his hands of them all, there is no way she could go back to work and stop "sponging off the taxpayer"... even if she wanted to, which is another matter.

There are a surprising number of loopholes and flaws in the benefits system as it stands, and anyone with more than 2 braincells can milk it if they wish.

I used to work with a chap who had got into a council house in Brixton, then used his right to buy... he then went on to tell me that the "trick" is to put your kids on the list for a council house almost as soon as they are born so that when they turn 16, they get given a house, which they can then buy for a reduced rate. It's blatant abuse of the system, but strictly speaking, still legal.

It all depends on having some sort of social conscience. Being brought up to only know your rights and not your associated responsibilities is, imo, the main cause for many of our current social woes.
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why does she need a 5 bed at all?

since the state is paying the kids can ****ing share.

its supposed to be a fail safe system not a ****ing luxury life choice.
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concise!

Ah, and for all those who'd say "ach, get her to work then!"... well, for her to put all her 6 kids in full-time childcare, in order for her to get a full-time job (based on an average nursery cost of £35 per day, based on 48 weeks of nursery per year)... she'd have to pay, wait for it... £50,400 per year on childcare alone.

On that kind of money, she'd be above any benefit limit, so would have to foot everything else herself, so lets say add on a "normal" family wage of £30k per year... tax on top of that... so, approx £100k, 9h-17h job.

Easy.
and its the tax payers fault she chose to breed like a rabbit i suppose.
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