One of my true pet hates in Dubai is being addressed!!
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Interesting. However, as it seems the locals are the most likely to do this I wonder how many of the images (and number plates) will be reviewed and then dismissed....
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not sure if this will make one iota of a difference....majority of drivers out here are a law onto themselves
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Not sure I agree with this observation at all, especially as there just aren't that many locals. And anyway, there are locals and Locals and LOCALS; not many really have any serious wasta. Beyond that it's low level wasta based on who you are related to and so forth. I often hear (more privileged) locals complain that the police are predominantly Yemeni and Balushi anyway and they like to hassle the "higher class" locals!
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Not sure I agree with this observation at all, especially as there just aren't that many locals. And anyway, there are locals and Locals and LOCALS; not many really have any serious wasta. Beyond that it's low level wasta based on who you are related to and so forth. I often hear (more privileged) locals complain that the police are predominantly Yemeni and Balushi anyway and they like to hassle the "higher class" locals!
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It's a sea of tensions and cross-currents under those loose flowing robes. One of the myths around Shaikh Zayed was that it was only his intervention that prevented the original proposal at the time of independence for five classes of citizenship being adopted. Apparently Baba Zayed said "we are all one people" and so there is just one class of Emarati citizenship (probably necessary to forge this synthetic artifice into a country). Ancestry and heritage are obsessions on the Arabian peninsula and there are so many different origins of locals here which most other locals could point out easily from the name or appearance or accent of their compatriots. Hence all the "Bidoons" and this farce with Comoros Islands nationality. And that's before you even get into the tribal stuff...
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It's a sea of tensions and cross-currents under those loose flowing robes. One of the myths around Shaikh Zayed was that it was only his intervention that prevented the original proposal at the time of independence for five classes of citizenship being adopted. Apparently Baba Zayed said "we are all one people" and so there is just one class of Emarati citizenship (probably necessary to forge this synthetic artifice into a country). Ancestry and heritage are obsessions on the Arabian peninsula and there are so many different origins of locals here which most other locals could point out easily from the name or appearance or accent of their compatriots. Hence all the "Bidoons" and this farce with Comoros Islands nationality. And that's before you even get into the tribal stuff...
I was lead to believe that the RAK locals (darker and more African looking) are more representative of the 'true' Emiratis?
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The other big merchant families of Dubai (for whose benefit the city is run let's be honest) are mainly of Iranian descent and that's what creates the interesting dynamic. The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
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Be careful.... Dubai royal family is actually a breakaway branch of the Bani Yas clan who came from the desert to AD in 18th century (and also gave rise to AD ruling family). It's all very well described in the sticky thread at the top of the ME forum here.
The other big merchant families of Dubai (for whose benefit the city is run let's be honest) are mainly of Iranian descent and that's what creates the interesting dynamic. The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
The other big merchant families of Dubai (for whose benefit the city is run let's be honest) are mainly of Iranian descent and that's what creates the interesting dynamic. The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
Interesting tho. I had a look around the Union building a few years ago and sat at the desk where they signed the agreement. This was before they started the redevelopment of the site. You should have seen the size (and number) of ash trays in that room. They must have been some serious smokers!
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I was trying to be careful!
Interesting tho. I had a look around the Union building a few years ago and sat at the desk where they signed the agreement. This was before they started the redevelopment of the site. You should have seen the size (and number) of ash trays in that room. They must have been some serious smokers!
Interesting tho. I had a look around the Union building a few years ago and sat at the desk where they signed the agreement. This was before they started the redevelopment of the site. You should have seen the size (and number) of ash trays in that room. They must have been some serious smokers!
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Be careful.... Dubai royal family is actually a breakaway branch of the Bani Yas clan who came from the desert to AD in 18th century (and also gave rise to AD ruling family). It's all very well described in the sticky thread at the top of the ME forum here.
The other big merchant families of Dubai (for whose benefit the city is run let's be honest) are mainly of Iranian descent and that's what creates the interesting dynamic. The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
The other big merchant families of Dubai (for whose benefit the city is run let's be honest) are mainly of Iranian descent and that's what creates the interesting dynamic. The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
Re. Bani Yas (used to live in Bani Yas tower in AD long time ago.
When you said "came from the desert", do you mean from Hijaz or Najd?
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The original (or maybe more accurately, longer established) inhabitants of the area were either fishermen/pearlers on the coast (usually darker skinned), date farmers in oases or Bedu in the desert. And of course the slaves (or latterly indentured servants) who worked for them and are now part of the general population.
You never mentioned the pirates..... As this used to be known as "The pirate Coast" - or am i not allowed to say that either?
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When you say "Iranian descent" , do you mean Khaleeji Arabs who settled in what is today Iran centuries ago and then returned to the Arabian Peninsula or do you mean Persian / other Iranic language speakers ? Iran does have a minority of native Arabic speakers .
Re. Bani Yas (used to live in Bani Yas tower in AD long time ago.
When you said "came from the desert", do you mean from Hijaz or Najd?
Re. Bani Yas (used to live in Bani Yas tower in AD long time ago.
When you said "came from the desert", do you mean from Hijaz or Najd?
I'm not sure where the Bani Yas came from but I guess it would be more Nejd (though perhaps a bit further south than that) rather than Hejaz which is thousands of km away. Again, I suggest you check out the thread at the top of the ME forum about UE history.