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Boomhauer Dec 7th 2013 6:53 am

Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24049876

Seems to me that while the likes of Qatar , Dubai and AD are publickly out there in terms of media exposure of their Sovereign Funds, the Norwegians have been quietly going about their business without much fanfare.

csdf Dec 8th 2013 3:42 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 
The UAE ain't doing so bad:
http://www.swfinstitute.org/fund-rankings/

To be fair, the Norwegians were starting from a point of relatively advanced development and employed a policy of "bank it now, spend it later". The Gulf states have had to build entire institutions and national infrastructure in a matter of decades. Given that, their (the Gulf SWFs) relative scale is mighty impressive.

Boomhauer Dec 8th 2013 4:42 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by csdf (Post 11025917)
The UAE ain't doing so bad:
http://www.swfinstitute.org/fund-rankings/

To be fair, the Norwegians were starting from a point of relatively advanced development and employed a policy of "bank it now, spend it later". The Gulf states have had to build entire institutions and national infrastructure in a matter of decades. Given that, their (the Gulf SWFs) relative scale is mighty impressive.

The GCC states had/have the advantage of: indentured servitude, no labor laws, slavery, highly exploited and abused blue collar workers; all which Norway didn't have.

the_red_sheep Dec 8th 2013 8:48 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 
Great to see the economic powerhouses of the world like East Timor, Botswana and Palestine making the list, but the UK not featuring.

The Dean Dec 8th 2013 9:41 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by the_red_sheep (Post 11026017)
Great to see the economic powerhouses of the world like East Timor, Botswana and Palestine making the list, but the UK not featuring.

The UK does not have enough money to have ever created a 'sovereign wealth fund' - it has the NHS to pay for........ ;)

csdf Dec 8th 2013 9:48 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11025932)
The GCC states had/have the advantage of: indentured servitude, no labor laws, slavery, highly exploited and abused blue collar workers; all which Norway didn't have.

All true, but what does that have to do with sovereign wealth funds?

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 8th 2013 10:34 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11024969)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24049876

Seems to me that while the likes of Qatar , Dubai and AD are publickly out there in terms of media exposure of their Sovereign Funds, the Norwegians have been quietly going about their business without much fanfare.

Huge sovereign fund, but only 6 hours of sunlight. Proof that you can't have it all

UKCityGent Dec 8th 2013 10:57 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11026062)
Huge sovereign fund, but only 6 hours of sunlight. Proof that you can't have it all

Thats becuase they have some very beautiful ladies - so swings and roundabouts really ..

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 8th 2013 11:01 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 11026066)
Thats becuase they have some very beautiful ladies - so swings and roundabouts really ..

So; Pros and Cons

Pros:
Beautiful Ladies (some)
Huge sovereign wealth fund

Cons:
Lack of daylight

At the moment I'm not sure whether lack of daylight contributes to Pro no.2 or if they're unrelated.

Meow Dec 8th 2013 11:35 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by csdf (Post 11026048)
All true, but what does that have to do with sovereign wealth funds?

Lower government expenditure?

Boomhauer Dec 8th 2013 11:50 am

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by csdf (Post 11026048)
All true, but what does that have to do with sovereign wealth funds?

UAE infrastructure played a major part in the country's ability to accumulate such a large SWF. If the UAE had to pay an honest wage and treat labourers as human, it would have cost them far more money to do so.

If a person here in America was afforded such ridiculously cheap labour and did not have to follow health and safety laws, they too would have an easier time accumulating such vast riches.

--
Edit
What Meow alludes to.

OleJanx Dec 8th 2013 12:15 pm

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11026069)
So; Pros and Cons



Cons:
Lack of daylight

I wonder what they get up to with all that darkness around them....:D

scrubbedexpat141 Dec 8th 2013 12:22 pm

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by OleJanx (Post 11026126)
I wonder what they get up to with all that darkness around them....:D

Well, first thing that came to my mind was pretty poor. Darkness, attractive women and for some reason...which is beyond me...this sprung to mind:

Note; I'm not condoning it, I must have watched too many bad films.

Spoiler:
Rape.

scot47 Dec 8th 2013 12:41 pm

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 
Leaving the Union with Sweden in 1905 was a smart move.

OleJanx Dec 8th 2013 12:42 pm

Re: Norway, world's biggest sovereign fund?
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 11026150)
Leaving the Union with Sweden in 1905 was a smart move.

Up to date, as ever.


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