No deal Brexit
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It would be certainly interesting to be in the UK and on the conveyor belt to sharks.
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Very unlikely rumour (or fake news) but the latest is that May has a secret deal with SNP. They will abstain from the Brexit deal vote in exchange for a second Indy referendum.
If true it gives her a much bigger safety margin for DUP abstaining if they are being sold down the river. May will be gambling that she can win a second Scottish referendum. However, the risk is the Scottish Tories will go berserk, including Davidson and Mundell.
Rumours, rumours, rumours! Frankly, this one opens up too many cans of worms to even take seriously. Then again, we live in a time when every day seems to be opening a new can of worms.
If true it gives her a much bigger safety margin for DUP abstaining if they are being sold down the river. May will be gambling that she can win a second Scottish referendum. However, the risk is the Scottish Tories will go berserk, including Davidson and Mundell.
Rumours, rumours, rumours! Frankly, this one opens up too many cans of worms to even take seriously. Then again, we live in a time when every day seems to be opening a new can of worms.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. My Dad was always heart Yes, head No. He said he'd have voted no to independence if he'd had to. I think lots of people get swept up in popular protest and emotion / pride / belief but when it comes down to it, they are capable of stopping and thinking.
Like in America, one of the biggest turnaround voting groups was white, middle class women. All polling results said they'd vote Hilary. When in secret, they're total closet racists and voted Trump because they hate the Mexicans (etc) but couldn't possibly admit it in person. Classic.
Like in America, one of the biggest turnaround voting groups was white, middle class women. All polling results said they'd vote Hilary. When in secret, they're total closet racists and voted Trump because they hate the Mexicans (etc) but couldn't possibly admit it in person. Classic.
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I would have voted Yes if resident, my wife voted no as did most of my female friends and relatives. Almost all of my male friends and relatives voted Yes. I was on an Emirates flight to Glasgow that day and there was a mixed reaction when the Captain announced the result.
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Peston saying on FB/Twitter tonight that May has to choose between Party and Country. The EU won't back down on the backstop, and the only way to solve it is to keep the UK in the/a Customs Union. It could well get through Parliament with Labour support but that would not go down well with the ERG lot and could tear the Tory party asunder (boo-hoo). If she goes no deal...well, whether you believe it's Project Fear or not, it's XXXXXX risky and could end up with the UK splitting up.
Not a fan of hers at all, but I do not envy her right now!
Not a fan of hers at all, but I do not envy her right now!
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Peston saying on FB/Twitter tonight that May has to choose between Party and Country. The EU won't back down on the backstop, and the only way to solve it is to keep the UK in the/a Customs Union. It could well get through Parliament with Labour support but that would not go down well with the ERG lot and could tear the Tory party asunder (boo-hoo). If she goes no deal...well, whether you believe it's Project Fear or not, it's XXXXXX risky and could end up with the UK splitting up.
Not a fan of hers at all, but I do not envy her right now!
Not a fan of hers at all, but I do not envy her right now!
I do tend to be amused at people accusing the opposite party of putting party before country. The truth is that different people have very different ideas for what's best for the country. ERG's stance is no more morally wrong or better than the arch-remaining diehard believers in the EU ideology. Just very different ideas for what's better for the country.
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Labour ain't supporting whatever deal May negotiates with the EU. None of them bar a tiny handful including Corbyn want to leave. So they will also be putting party before country in voting down the deal. frankly, nobody will want the deal May comes up with, Tory or Labour or DUP or SNP. And that's the tricky bit.
I do tend to be amused at people accusing the opposite party of putting party before country. The truth is that different people have very different ideas for what's best for the country. ERG's stance is no more morally wrong or better than the arch-remaining diehard believers in the EU ideology. Just very different ideas for what's better for the country.
I do tend to be amused at people accusing the opposite party of putting party before country. The truth is that different people have very different ideas for what's best for the country. ERG's stance is no more morally wrong or better than the arch-remaining diehard believers in the EU ideology. Just very different ideas for what's better for the country.
But my commie opinion isn't important here. The only way this whole argument will be settled is for a full crash out and then we'll see what happens. If it goes terribly, the Tories are screwed. They're basically screwed whatever they do and they don't have the numbers to get anything through parliament. But this is all of their own doing, so my sympathy for them is somewhat limited. There's a good meme I've seen doing the rounds of a picture of the Tory cabinet with the words: "Promise everything, deliver nothing, blame everyone else". Bang on (and yes, it probably applies to every government ever, whatever colour tie they wear).
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The ideal function of a democratic government. Keeps them from becoming troublesome so we can get on with life.
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i notice lots of remarks from those resident South of Tweed and Solway telling us in Scotland what we think and what we should do. The whole point of the New Politics in Scotland from the 1990 ois that we are realising that we should decide for ourselves - like grown-ups. Using abusive nicknames for the First Minister will not resolve anything, Mr Jammypants !
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i notice lots of remarks from those resident South of Tweed and Solway telling us in Scotland what we think and what we should do. The whole point of the New Politics in Scotland from the 1990 ois that we are realising that we should decide for ourselves - like grown-ups. Using abusive nicknames for the First Minister will not resolve anything, Mr Jammypants !
Actually, come to think of it, I bet you are. Hiding behind your computer screen. It would explain a lot.
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i notice lots of remarks from those resident South of Tweed and Solway telling us in Scotland what we think and what we should do. The whole point of the New Politics in Scotland from the 1990 ois that we are realising that we should decide for ourselves - like grown-ups. Using abusive nicknames for the First Minister will not resolve anything, Mr Jammypants !
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i notice lots of remarks from those resident South of Tweed and Solway telling us in Scotland what we think and what we should do. The whole point of the New Politics in Scotland from the 1990 ois that we are realising that we should decide for ourselves - like grown-ups. Using abusive nicknames for the First Minister will not resolve anything, Mr Jammypants !
I thought the 'Mack' bit in my user name would give you a clue to my heritage.....
As for Sturgeon, shes a right boot. Same mould as that snake oil salesman Salmond.
And why is there a fish theme for SNP leaders?
#45
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Bit early for a Brexit deal, it'll be some time after March when the EU has optimum leverage to get the best deal based on past precedent. Also I expect there may be a series of interim deals to allow the British government to fall back progressively by applying pressure over an extended horizon. The EU want the best deal not to trigger a change in government.