The Dean

........... which is ironic, considering the fact that (pre-2010-election) UKIP went to see Cameron and offered not to field any candidates at all in return for an unequivocal and publicly-announced agreement that a Conservative government would hold a full in-or-out referendum on Britain's EU membership after taking office.

Cameron refused, UKIP candidates stood, and took enough votes in key Tory target seats to leave them, if my memory serves, about 20 seats short of an overall majority.

To form a government, Cameron had to get into bed with the odious Clegg and has been regretting it ever since............ the opinion polls are telling Cameron what the public think of him, and the 2014 Euro elections may well see UKIP (already second-largest) as the largest UK party in the Euro Parliament.

Millhouse

Don't be silly Dean. The union won't be around then.

The Dean

Amen to that............

The Dean

Farage is even in the FT today by the way.............

Millhouse

Yes, I read it. He is getting a lot of screen time now.

Everything he has forewarned is coming true. The question will be how Greece exits and what this does to the faith of the Euro.

Let's suppose that the currency goes (or is somehow split between the north and south) - I wonder what will happen to the politics. The EC etc. Without the need to hold a common currency together I can see us all running out and buying bent bananas.

Norm_uk

If you say so...tell it to the many Muslims who think it is and are actively working on a new Caliphate.

N.

UKCityGent

I do say so ... i thought you would have carried the topic on.. Im not sure which caliphate your talking about (perhaps the great European) - perhaps you could start a new thread ?

Anyways

What are the odds of Finland bailing out by the end of next year, and as an accumulator before/after Greece or Italy ?

Millhouse

One step at a time. Let the Greeks go first in a 'managed and controlled' fashion on a Friday with our masters claiming glory and genius about how they managed the contagion risk in the Sunday papers.

Then watch it all fall to the shitters on the Monday in one spectacular bust.

UKCityGent

Finland considering its options - maybe it may make a decision during Q1 next year (or perhaps an early xmas present to me !!)

Norm_uk

Even Gaddaffi said they would take over Europe with immigration - he wasn't alone in saying that. I think you are playing innocent, the goals of virtually every jihadist group include the 'restoration of the Caliphate'.

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Not interested - as long as Britain leaves the EUSSR and goes back to close trade ties only we'll be ok. The EU a disastrous mess of totally undemocratic wastage and jingoism.

N.