Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Now just to be a bit contentious (and before I get a right kicking I will actually make it plain they are not my opinions), was Mandela a terrorist, as he never actually denounced the terrorism, or his part in it.
In some peoples eyes he was (and not just the bigoted idiots running SA at the time)!! Be interested to see the views on here. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
A lot of people in the Tory party considered him so .
Read into that what you will. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter
Has always been that way and always will be He wasn't and not were the ANC quite al Qaeda though |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 11025406)
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter
Has always been that way and always will be He wasn't and not were the ANC quite al Qaeda though Terrorist is a worthless term, it is applied with prejudice and bias by those powerfull enough to make the term stick to their enemies. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
From one obituary:
"Mandela organised a bombing campaign in December 1961. There was no plan to kill anyone – the targets were power stations, electricity pylons and empty government buildings. But the bombings were a fiasco, ineptly organised and carried out with almost absurd amateurism. The only casualty was one of Mandela’s youthful guerrillas, one Petrus Molife, who mistakenly killed himself with his own bomb. Under Mandela’s leadership, Umkhonto we Sizwe (Spear of the Nation) was peculiarly ineffective." |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 11025400)
A lot of people in the Tory party considered him so .
Read into that what you will. http://i.stack.imgur.com/TeN0o.jpg |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 11025406)
One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter
Has always been that way and always will be He wasn't and not were the ANC quite al Qaeda though But neither is he a perfect saint as so many people are claiming. Mandela set up the military wing of the ANC and endorsed violence to secure their aims. He did a good job for the few years he was in power (lack of AIDS awareness not withstanding) but there seems to have been something of a whitewash regarding his early activities. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 11025975)
But neither as he a perfect saint as so many people are claiming. Mandela set up the military wing of the ANC and endorsed violence to secure their aims.
He did a good job for the few years he was in power (lack of AIDS awareness not withstanding) but there seems to have been something of a whitewash regarding his early activities. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 11025975)
But neither as he a perfect saint as so many people are claiming. Mandela set up the military wing of the ANC and endorsed violence to secure their aims.
He did a good job for the few years he was in power (lack of AIDS awareness not withstanding) but there seems to have been something of a whitewash regarding his early activities. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
A freedom fighter doesn't cause the deaths of innocent women and children, a terrorist does. Look up the Church street bombings and make your own minds up. This is one of the many bombings Mandela sanctioned as leader of MK.
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Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by mikewot
(Post 11026075)
A freedom fighter doesn't cause the deaths of innocent women and children, a terrorist does. Look up the Church street bombings and make your own minds up. This is one of the many bombings Mandela sanctioned as leader of MK.
Here's some info about MK, co-founded by Mandela. Landmines, torture and execution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe Apartheid is vile and the SA government was responsible for a lot, but that doesn't validate the actions of MK, also known as 'Spear of the Nation'. I also think that insufficient credit is given to the white politicians who effected the changes in SA. Shame the country is such a mess now and they couldn't sort themselves out. :( I know loads of South Africans and only one couple has any intention of returning to SA and they are from Durban. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 11026083)
I also think that insufficient credit is given to the white politicians who effected the changes in SA. Shame the country is such a mess now and they couldn't sort themselves out. :( I know loads of South Africans and only one couple has any intention of returning to SA and they are from Durban.
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Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 11026083)
Shame the country is such a mess now and they couldn't sort themselves out. :( I know loads of South Africans and only one couple has any intention of returning to SA and they are from Durban.
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Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 11025975)
But neither is he a perfect saint as so many people are claiming. Mandela set up the military wing of the ANC and endorsed violence to secure their aims.
He did a good job for the few years he was in power (lack of AIDS awareness not withstanding) but there seems to have been something of a whitewash regarding his early activities. |
Re: Nelson Mandela Terrorist???
Originally Posted by NorthernLad
(Post 11026117)
Likewise...and BEE is only making things worse. Whilst in theory it sounds good, in reality it's apartheid in reverse (and business is suffering from having to employ people who know they are needed and use that in their favour).
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