View Poll Results: Are you more of less racist since coming to the gulf
Absolutely - I now answer to Malcolm Little
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I'm less tolerant of those horizontal queueing bastards
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23.81%
Well, if you can't beat them you might as well join them - I now use my hazards in the fog
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Not really - but I'm just more aware of the boxes I put people in
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I turn a blind eye to all of this as long as someone puts petrol in my tank for me
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9.52%
I'm more tolerant - people here get a hard time for no reason
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4.76%
No change.
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23.81%
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Old May 10th 2011, 8:47 am
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Default Re: More of less racist

Originally Posted by Millhouse
We are not going to agree on this. I would not be worried by my statements - to use your words you either don't understand them or have not thought them through.

So tell me - is it better, in your opinion, to discriminate on race, culture or not at all?
Perhaps you should re-phrase the question because it's possibly loaded and may need specific context to answer.

As an absolute though to discriminate against other human beings simply because of their racial characteristics is immoral. Race is something we cannot chose or change (Michael Jackson excluded!)

Culture can and does change, and only the very stupid follow cultural practice without question. Few Hindus will accept the burning of widows anymore, genital mutilation of baby boys is decreasing among secular Jews, not too many Europeans feel it's acceptable to beat a naughty child to unconsciousness yet that was pretty standard 70 or 80 years ago.

The only racial discrimination I would accept is people finding different races more attractive than others - that harms no one and we all have the right to choose our prospective mates.

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Originally Posted by saudiflares
More anti-Scot than I ever was in Blighty. Does that count?
That happens when you hang around this bored (sic) for too long...
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Race v Culture.

Toughie.

I've always seen Race as something you can't change, culture as something applied to you by your surroundings.

eg; you may grow up Jewish but you don't HAVE to be Jewish.

eg; if you are black / white etc then you are that for life.

However, I agree with Millhouse that they are entwined to an almost unseparable extent...
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Default Re: More of less racist

Originally Posted by Scamp
Race v Culture.

Toughie.

I've always seen Race as something you can't change, culture as something applied to you by your surroundings.

eg; you may grow up Jewish but you don't HAVE to be Jewish.

eg; if you are black / white etc then you are that for life.

However, I agree with Millhouse that they are entwined to an almost unseparable extent...
My Indian friend was wondering who was behind the racist show 'goodness gracious me'. The look on his face when he saw the credits was priceless.
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My Indian friend was wondering who was behind the racist show 'goodness gracious me'. The look on his face when he saw the credits was priceless.
You think that was racist? And surely your friend saw who was acting in it (unless this was the original BBC R4 show)?
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Originally Posted by Paracletus
My Indian friend was wondering who was behind the racist show 'goodness gracious me'. The look on his face when he saw the credits was priceless.
Tell him to go out and buy some DVDs of 'Mind Your Language' and 'Love Thy Neighbour'.........
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Tell him to go out and buy some DVDs of 'Mind Your Language' and 'Love Thy Neighbour'.........
And perhaps It Ain't Half Hot Mum?
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And perhaps It Ain't Half Hot Mum?
What was that one with Alf Garnett in it ?
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What was that one with Alf Garnett in it ?
Til Death do us Part.

Unlike the others, that was more subversive and was taking the piss out of the Alf Garnett character and those who thought like him.
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how can Skipinder the Punjabi Kangaroo be racist?
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Glad to see the conversation has now plummeted to my level.

Loved watching Goodness Gracious Me, The Real McCoy, but was brought up on watching stuff like Love Thy Neighbour, Mind Your Language, It Aint Half Hot Mum. Never really liked Til Death Do Us Part, just didn't think it was as funny as the others.

Remember a line from Mind Your Language - teacher sets an exercise for the class to use the word 'benign' in a sentence..... I'm sure you can guess the rest.
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Originally Posted by saudiflares
More anti-Scot than I ever was in Blighty. Does that count?
Only for Brownie points.
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Originally Posted by Millhouse

the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life
Pedant's corner here. So if there's an African-born Frenchman you can't discriminate against him because of his national or ethnic origin (both African--you can only have one origin), but you can because of his Frenchness. I like that.

And you're also free to impair his human rights in his private life.

Me? I'm not racist. I discriminate against; idiots; those who will either directly or indirectly, deliberately or otherwise, impair my life; and Chelsea supporters.
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
and Chelsea supporters.
I'd like to add Leeds United supporters to that. But seeing as they are already covered by generic label of 'idiots' then there may be no need.
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I discriminate and take the piss out of everyone equally. Or at least try.
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