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MataHari Aug 22nd 2008 12:29 pm

Men are from Mars...
 
and women are from Venus...
read the book on my holiday...confirms that men are just weird, illogical and selfish beings...

Blue Cat Aug 22nd 2008 12:33 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704179)
and women are from Venus...
read the book on my holiday...confirms that men are just weird, illogical and selfish beings...

was going to say, did you really need the book?

Dutchie Aug 22nd 2008 12:38 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704179)
and women are from Venus...
read the book on my holiday...confirms that men are just weird, illogical and selfish beings...

True... But species recognizes species isn't that true? Otherwise mother natures tango dance would have never worked and mankind would have never existed. :sneaky:

MataHari Aug 22nd 2008 12:40 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6704188)
was going to say, did you really need the book?

mr MH bought it for me....big mistake...now I have it in writing....

MataHari Aug 22nd 2008 12:40 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Dutchie (Post 6704200)
True... But species recognizes species isn't that true? Otherwise mother natures tango dance would have never worked and mankind would have never existed. :sneaky:

I don't know...I am the last person to ask about relationships...

Dutchie Aug 22nd 2008 12:43 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704207)
I don't know...I am the last person to ask about relationships...

Hmmm... On holiday? Get back into the bikini and hit the beach again MH. Shame on you girl. ;)

Blue Cat Aug 22nd 2008 12:44 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704206)
mr MH bought it for me....big mistake...now I have it in writing....


proves how stupid they are doesn't it :(

MataHari Aug 22nd 2008 12:47 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6704217)
proves how stupid they are doesn't it :(

lol...I have to find myself a good woman...

Ray Aug 22nd 2008 12:59 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 
I have reported this thread for the utterance of falsehoods ...

Shadya Aug 22nd 2008 1:00 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704225)
lol...I have to find myself a good woman...

Hello sweetie:wub:

Ray Aug 22nd 2008 1:04 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Shadya (Post 6704274)
Hello sweetie:wub:

are you a carpet muncher ..you may be needed

Blue Cat Aug 22nd 2008 1:22 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704225)
lol...I have to find myself a good woman...

I blame my mother for me being born straight :rofl:

MissDemeanor Aug 22nd 2008 1:23 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704179)
and women are from Venus...
read the book on my holiday...confirms that men are just weird, illogical and selfish beings...

for every positive there is a negative.....

Madam Medusa Aug 22nd 2008 1:33 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704206)
mr MH bought it for me

oh dear, oh dear...

MM, xx

MissDemeanor Aug 22nd 2008 1:40 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Madam Medusa (Post 6704373)
oh dear, oh dear...

MM, xx

proves just how stupid they are doesnt it?:rofl:

Madam Medusa Aug 22nd 2008 1:41 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MissDemeanor (Post 6704390)
proves just how stupid they are doesnt it?:rofl:

awww...some of them are ok...

MM, xx

Blue Cat Aug 22nd 2008 1:52 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Madam Medusa (Post 6704394)
awww...some of them are ok...

MM, xx

when they are asleep :)

MissDemeanor Aug 22nd 2008 1:54 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Madam Medusa (Post 6704394)
awww...some of them are ok...

MM, xx

prove it!:rofl:

Charismatic Aug 22nd 2008 1:54 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 
Ahh yes, John Gray! The well renouned evolution psychologist...

...who has never actually conducted propper research and got his degree (In relationship counselling, not psychology) from a “University” closed by court order...:confused:

...but knows a lot about how the sexes interact...

...from the 10 years he spent as a Hindu monk...:confused:

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point ;).

It really is just “Pop psychology”. It's a very good example of how you can cover all the subtleties of a vast and complex topic like behavioral and evolutionary psychology with just a few sweeping generalities missing out the tedious, but necessary, detail to develop a full bottom up understanding of what motivates us all.

If you are interested in the subject I recommend “The Essential Difference: The Truth about the Male and Female Brain” by Simon Baron-Cohen and/or “Sex and Cognition” by Doreen Kimura (Listed in order of preference) written (Beautifully if I may say so myself) by people who are both amongst the foremost experts in their field :thumbsup:.

If I'm harsh on John Gray it's only because he is an inept idiot of an author writing about something he obviously has a shallow understanding of (at best) :mad:, don't let his views alone poison yours because this field of research is rapidly advancing and fascinating when explored by experts :thumbsup:.

Dutchie Aug 22nd 2008 2:11 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6704432)
Ahh yes, John Gray! The well renouned evolution psychologist...

...who has never actually conducted propper research and got his degree (In relationship counselling, not psychology) from a “University” closed by court order...:confused:

...but knows a lot about how the sexes interact...

...from the 10 years he spent as a Hindu monk...:confused:

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point ;).

It really is just “Pop psychology”. It's a very good example of how you can cover all the subtleties of a vast and complex topic like behavioral and evolutionary psychology with just a few sweeping generalities missing out the tedious, but necessary, detail to develop a full bottom up understanding of what motivates us all.

If you are interested in the subject I recommend “The Essential Difference: The Truth about the Male and Female Brain” by Simon Baron-Cohen and/or “Sex and Cognition” by Doreen Kimura (Listed in order of preference) written (Beautifully if I may say so myself) by people who are both amongst the foremost experts in their field :thumbsup:.

If I'm harsh on John Gray it's only because he is an inept idiot of an author writing about something he obviously has a shallow understanding of (at best) :mad:, don't let his views alone poison yours because this field of research is rapidly advancing and fascinating when explored by experts :thumbsup:.


And it's 2 - 1 for the males on this board. ;)

Charismatic Aug 22nd 2008 2:27 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Dutchie (Post 6704502)
And it's 2 - 1 for the males on this board. ;)

:rofl:

I agree with MH when she described men as "weird, illogical and selfish" but not just men as it turns out. If you read deeper into the subject you realise that what appeared 'illogical' and 'weird' often has a very valid and logical basis but often the context has been lost though the rapid changes in human environment, even to the extent that people are selfish for very good reason!

We are the way not to be delibratly facetious or provocative but because we are beautiful biological systems designed to deal with a world that no longer exists or problems that are not immediatly obvious on the surface.

Dutchie Aug 22nd 2008 2:47 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6704555)
:rofl:

I agree with MH when she described men as "weird, illogical and selfish" but not just men as it turns out. If you read deeper into the subject you realise that what appeared 'illogical' and 'weird' often has a very valid and logical basis but often the context has been lost though the rapid changes in human environment, even to the extent that people are selfish for very good reason!

We are the way not to be delibratly facetious or provocative but because we are beautiful biological systems designed to deal with a world that no longer exists or problems that are not immediatly obvious on the surface.

It's like Darwin once said "The beautiful game of constant adaptation of what was once an Ape species in an ever changing environment...." With the classical male and female roles in society slowly but constantly fading away, the battle between the sexes to hold ground will always exist.

Charismatic Aug 22nd 2008 3:08 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 
Mind you Dutchie he has managed to flog 15 million books, maybe we should cash in and write a feel good pop psychology book on the subject as well. Even at 50c a book profit we'll be rolling in it!

Maybe I was a bit quick to judge John Gray after all!

Dutchie Aug 22nd 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6704689)
Mind you Dutchie he has managed to flog 15 million books, maybe we should cash in and write a feel good pop psychology book on the subject as well. Even at 50c a book profit we'll be rolling in it!

Maybe I was a bit quick to judge John Gray after all!

Hahaha... Or write one on the mysteries of female logic. Now there's a mega bestseller even before it's written. ;)

Confucius Aug 22nd 2008 7:11 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 
What a load of crapola...
Some women don't understand men...
Some men don't understand women...
Some women don't understand other women...
And some men don't understand other men...
It's been the way of the world since the dinosaurs!!!

MataHari Aug 23rd 2008 9:04 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 6705388)
What a load of crapola...
Some women don't understand men...
Some men don't understand women...
Some women don't understand other women...
And some men don't understand other men...
It's been the way of the world since the dinosaurs!!!

I don't understand what you mean...

Confucius Aug 23rd 2008 9:08 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6706894)
I don't understand what you mean...

Nothing new...

shakh your bootie Aug 23rd 2008 11:42 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 6705388)
What a load of crapola...
Some women don't understand men...
Some men don't understand women...
Some women don't understand other women...
And some men don't understand other men...
It's been the way of the world since the dinosaurs!!!

Me, I don't even understand myself.....

As for the rest of you, I'm far from convinced that you substantiate any corporeal existence.....

Charismatic Aug 23rd 2008 11:55 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6707132)
I'm far from convinced that you substantiate any corporeal existence.....

F:curse:ck, we've been rumbled!

Does it really matter if we are of tangible, physical properties or an illusion since the illusion is real to you? Cue a philosophy thread!

Confucius Aug 23rd 2008 3:25 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6707132)
Me, I don't even understand myself.....

As for the rest of you, I'm far from convinced that you substantiate any corporeal existence.....

I get you, brothah...

admon Aug 24th 2008 7:43 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 
if men are from mars, women are from Uranus

TGFKASE Aug 24th 2008 8:08 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6704432)
Ahh yes, John Gray! The well renouned evolution psychologist...

...who has never actually conducted propper research and got his degree (In relationship counselling, not psychology) from a “University” closed by court order...:confused:

...but knows a lot about how the sexes interact...

...from the 10 years he spent as a Hindu monk...:confused:

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point ;).

It really is just “Pop psychology”. It's a very good example of how you can cover all the subtleties of a vast and complex topic like behavioral and evolutionary psychology with just a few sweeping generalities missing out the tedious, but necessary, detail to develop a full bottom up understanding of what motivates us all.

If you are interested in the subject I recommend “The Essential Difference: The Truth about the Male and Female Brain” by Simon Baron-Cohen and/or “Sex and Cognition” by Doreen Kimura (Listed in order of preference) written (Beautifully if I may say so myself) by people who are both amongst the foremost experts in their field :thumbsup:.

If I'm harsh on John Gray it's only because he is an inept idiot of an author writing about something he obviously has a shallow understanding of (at best) :mad:, don't let his views alone poison yours because this field of research is rapidly advancing and fascinating when explored by experts :thumbsup:.


Dont think Id take lessons from the guy who created Ali G!!!!!!!!

Charismatic Aug 24th 2008 8:42 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 6709222)
Dont think Id take lessons from the guy who created Ali G!!!!!!!!

Simon or Sacha? A relationship advice book by Ali G would be fantastic :rofl:.

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/...nal-poster.jpg

Norm_uk Aug 24th 2008 10:21 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704179)
and women are from Venus...
read the book on my holiday...confirms that men are just weird, illogical and selfish beings...

That book was written by a man...there must be some irony in your statement.

Anyone who has had anything resembling a relationship with any member of the opposite sex knows we think and respond differently. I wish I had cashed in on that and wrote a book with a catchy sci-fi title before that con artist (yes con artist with an online degree from a phony university) did then I'd be rich and inviting you all over to my Venusian shag pad so we can explore our "differences" ;)

Now I will just have to write a book about embittered sexaholic men in the middle east :rofl:

N.

TGFKASE Aug 24th 2008 10:23 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 6709451)
That book was written by a man...there must be some irony in your statement.

Anyone who has had anything resembling a relationship with any member of the opposite sex knows we think and respond differently. I wish I had cashed in on that and wrote a book with a catchy sci-fi title before that con artist (yes con artist with an online degree from a phony university) did then I'd be rich and inviting you all over to my Venusian shag pad so we can explore our "differences" ;)

Now I will just have to write a book about embittered sexaholic men in the middle east :rofl:

N.

Autobiographical, is it???

Norm_uk Aug 24th 2008 10:23 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by MataHari (Post 6704225)
lol...I have to find myself a good woman...

Got a good email the other day with a quote that was something like "women will never be equal to men because they don't have supportive wives"...the email from a friend in the UK who just had a civil partnership with her long friend :)

N.

Eva Aug 27th 2008 8:04 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6704432)
Ahh yes, John Gray! The well renouned evolution psychologist...

...who has never actually conducted propper research and got his degree (In relationship counselling, not psychology) from a “University” closed by court order...:confused:

...but knows a lot about how the sexes interact...

...from the 10 years he spent as a Hindu monk...:confused:

I could go on but I'm sure you get my point ;).

It really is just “Pop psychology”. It's a very good example of how you can cover all the subtleties of a vast and complex topic like behavioral and evolutionary psychology with just a few sweeping generalities missing out the tedious, but necessary, detail to develop a full bottom up understanding of what motivates us all.

If you are interested in the subject I recommend “The Essential Difference: The Truth about the Male and Female Brain” by Simon Baron-Cohen and/or “Sex and Cognition” by Doreen Kimura (Listed in order of preference) written (Beautifully if I may say so myself) by people who are both amongst the foremost experts in their field :thumbsup:.

If I'm harsh on John Gray it's only because he is an inept idiot of an author writing about something he obviously has a shallow understanding of (at best) :mad:, don't let his views alone poison yours because this field of research is rapidly advancing and fascinating when explored by experts :thumbsup:.


Yeh cos he calls his sequent. novel: 'Mars & Venus in the Bedroom'

Surely with Mars leading that's more of a short story than a novel...............

Eva Aug 27th 2008 8:08 pm

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by shakh your bootie (Post 6707132)
Me, I don't even understand myself.....

As for the rest of you, I'm far from convinced that you substantiate any corporeal existence.....

Do you need a lawyer?

Charismatic Aug 28th 2008 12:09 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Eva (Post 6721368)
Yeh cos he calls his sequent. novel: 'Mars & Venus in the Bedroom'

Surely with Mars leading that's more of a short story than a novel...............

:p Not to mention the geometric problems of fitting planets into a bedroom.

There is a cynical part of me saying that women should have sex with other women are reserve marriage and sex with men purely for practical purposes (Getting water to come out of the taps for instance :rofl:), wouldn't both sexes be much happier this way? Of course I'm sure they would have adopted this approach if it had any merit or if there was any truth in the complaint they keep voicing than men cannot satify them ;). So on most grounds I have to refute that argument based on the evidence.

Confucius Aug 28th 2008 11:19 am

Re: Men are from Mars...
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6722092)
:p Not to mention the geometric problems of fitting planets into a bedroom.

There is a cynical part of me saying that women should have sex with other women are reserve marriage and sex with men purely for practical purposes (Getting water to come out of the taps for instance :rofl:), wouldn't both sexes be much happier this way? Of course I'm sure they would have adopted this approach if it had any merit or if there was any truth in the complaint they keep voicing than men cannot satify them ;). So on most grounds I have to refute that argument based on the evidence.

Even I don't understand you...You're not even from Mars,probably...


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