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Old Aug 20th 2013, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Lots of interesting stats on seatbelts. The death rate is roughly the same with or without them. We just drive faster and take more risks now that we have them.
I don't think that death rate stat would be correct, but I agree about the riskier behavior with wearing seatbelts.

Personally I believe that is why the Government is reluctant to introduce this law. It has been proven that people drive faster once they are strapped in.

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"A study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to seatbelt use by adopting higher driving speeds and closer following distances"
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Old Aug 20th 2013, 12:55 pm
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by Bongoman2
I don't think that death rate stat would be correct, but I agree about the riskier behavior with wearing seatbelts.

Personally I believe that is why the Government is reluctant to introduce this law. It has been proven that people drive faster once they are strapped in.

From Wikipedia.
"A study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to seatbelt use by adopting higher driving speeds and closer following distances"
I therefore propose the steering wheel spike of death.
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by Bongoman2
Personally I believe that is why the Government is reluctant to introduce this law. It has been proven that people drive faster once they are strapped in.

From Wikipedia.
"A study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to seatbelt use by adopting higher driving speeds and closer following distances"
Wait! This is the UAE how could some drivers possibly get closer?
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Tell you what. We can colonise the place and then WE can make the laws ! Oh, just a minute, we tried that !!!!!!!

This is not the place to try behaving like a missionary. they want to kill their newly-born children, who are we to interfere ?
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Originally Posted by Yoohoo
The economic rationalist in me sees helmets and seat belts as insurance against huge medical bills that need to be borne by somebody - state or family - if one doesn't actually die from one's stupidity. Public good vs private freedom to be as stupid as one likes is a vexed issue if you don't put limits on that freedom.
The problem with using the money argument is that you invariably create a cituation where individual freedoms and liberties are compromised by the State all under the guise of saving money or saving people from themselves.loom

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Originally Posted by Yoohoo
It's not really macro-economics. It's plain common-sense. Very different things.
Also..
If the State's argument is money saved then wouldn't a person dying young in an accident cost less than one who lives to a ripe old age and in the process use up a lot of State medical resources?
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Originally Posted by Bongoman2

From Wikipedia.
"A study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to seatbelt use by adopting higher driving speeds and closer following distances"
That takes no account of the environment relevant to this current debate. A text out of context is a pretext.
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by Dubaiexile
Last year I remonstrated with a local couple about this and the dangers, just trying to quietly point out the facts, the guy went up like a bottle of pop, telling me to mind my own business and go home to my own country etc etc. 3 hours later I received an invitation to go to Rashadiya Police Station where I was "interviewed" and detained for about 5 hours and finally told that the local had decided to not press charges!!!!!! Charges for what??????? to say I was a tad pissed off would be an understatement, so now I adopt the attitude that who I am I to interfere and defer their entry to paradise being the Infidel I am!!!!!
Quite a strange case really! Are you sure you didn’t let slip the four letter word thinking that he wouldn’t understand?

Actually parents can be quite funny if someone hints something at their children’s care. I was once at Tesco shopping with one of my wives (the bubbly one). It was Saturday and the shop was packed with shoppers pushing their trollies. There was this little toddler running between the trollies with no one seemed to be minding him. My wife Then approached him and as she held his hand and escorted him to a safe isle his blond mother appeared from the crowd and said “DON’T YOU TOUCH MY CHILD”
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Quite a strange case really! Are you sure you didn’t let slip the four letter word thinking that he wouldn’t understand?

Actually parents can be quite funny if someone hints something at their children’s care. I was once at Tesco shopping with one of my wives (the bubbly one). It was Saturday and the shop was packed with shoppers pushing their trollies. There was this little toddler running between the trollies with no one seemed to be minding him. My wife Then approached him and as she held his hand and escorted him to a safe isle his blond mother appeared from the crowd and said “DON’T YOU TOUCH MY CHILD”
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by redShark
Quite a strange case really! Are you sure you didn’t let slip the four letter word thinking that he wouldn’t understand?

Actually parents can be quite funny if someone hints something at their children’s care. I was once at Tesco shopping with one of my wives (the bubbly one). It was Saturday and the shop was packed with shoppers pushing their trollies. There was this little toddler running between the trollies with no one seemed to be minding him. My wife Then approached him and as she held his hand and escorted him to a safe isle his blond mother appeared from the crowd and said “DON’T YOU TOUCH MY CHILD”
No did not let slip any expletives.
Tell the "bubbly one" she probably got the unsafe Isle by mistake
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by redShark
Quite a strange case really! Are you sure you didn’t let slip the four letter word thinking that he wouldn’t understand?

Actually parents can be quite funny if someone hints something at their children’s care. I was once at Tesco shopping with one of my wives (the bubbly one). It was Saturday and the shop was packed with shoppers pushing their trollies. There was this little toddler running between the trollies with no one seemed to be minding him. My wife Then approached him and as she held his hand and escorted him to a safe isle his blond mother appeared from the crowd and said “DON’T YOU TOUCH MY CHILD”
What's a safe aisle?

Veggies?
Milk and butter?
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Old Aug 21st 2013, 4:57 am
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by Dubaiexile
No did not let slip any expletives.
Tell the "bubbly one" she probably got the unsafe Isle by mistake
I'm more interested in knowing the pet names for the other wives, so marroonfish, we have The "Bubbly one", what are the names of the other 3?

The "Trumpy one", the "Grumpy one" and the "Frumpy one"?
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Originally Posted by redShark
with one of my wives (the bubbly one). ”
As an aside to the rest of the thread, and despite the can of worms this may open, are/were these wives concurrent or sequential?

Back on topic, short of stopping a feral kid from injuring itself, or stepping in if the parents were beating the shit out of it, I’d not interfere with parental practices or lecture them on what they should do or not do.
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Default Re: mandatory child car restraints in UAE

Originally Posted by scot47
they want to kill their newly-born children, who are we to interfere ?
I have to agree, especially after the post earlier about the driver who ran over a kid after the kid fell out of the car being prosecuted.

Parents should take the responsibility.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
Also..
If the State's argument is money saved then wouldn't a person dying young in an accident cost less than one who lives to a ripe old age and in the process use up a lot of State medical resources?
Yes - it would. Unless that person was the provider for others who are unable to provide for themselves.
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