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Bahtatboy Apr 6th 2011 5:52 am

Maid abuse not restricted to the ME
 
Col al-Ali, 46, brought the woman to the US as a household servant for himself, his wife and five children, promising her $10 (£6.14) per hour for 40 hours of work a week, Assistant US Attorney Mary Rogers said.

Instead, he forced her to work seven days a week, often until midnight, without pay and refused to let her talk to anyone outside the family or to leave the house on her own, Ms Rogers said.

Col al-Ali's lawyer Victoria Walton put the discrepancy down to a misunderstanding and to a language barrier.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12980760

lionheart Apr 6th 2011 5:56 am

Re: Maid abuse not restricted to the ME
 
Not sure where you are going with this. There have been several recent reports of similar acts of neo-slavery in the UK as well, not necessarily involving employers of Middle East origin. I don't think anyone seriously believes that it's only Arabs who abuse their maids.

shiva Apr 6th 2011 6:05 am

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 9288334)
Not sure where you are going with this. There have been several recent reports of similar acts of neo-slavery in the UK as well, not necessarily involving employers of Middle East origin. I don't think anyone seriously believes that it's only Arabs who abuse their maids.

of course not, most of the horror cases in the west have involved indian and pakistani protagonists, who seem to view abuse of domestic staff as virtually a right if not a sporting pastime

Boomhauer Apr 6th 2011 6:07 am

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 9288334)
Not sure where you are going with this. There have been several recent reports of similar acts of neo-slavery in the UK as well, not necessarily involving employers of Middle East origin. I don't think anyone seriously believes that it's only Arabs who abuse their maids.

The difference is in the UK or US or other Western democrasy, it is not wink wink sanctioned / given a pass by the government, unlike the Arab countries where the authorities just turn a blind eye or worse punish the victim.

Bahtatboy Apr 6th 2011 7:09 am

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 9288334)
Not sure where you are going with this. There have been several recent reports of similar acts of neo-slavery in the UK as well, not necessarily involving employers of Middle East origin. I don't think anyone seriously believes that it's only Arabs who abuse their maids.

several v prolific is where I'm going if you have to ask

lionheart Apr 6th 2011 2:17 pm

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Originally Posted by shiva (Post 9288345)
of course not, most of the horror cases in the west have involved indian and pakistani protagonists, who seem to view abuse of domestic staff as virtually a right if not a sporting pastime

I trust you are not a regular contributor to 7Days or Gulf News.:ohmy:

shiva Apr 6th 2011 6:11 pm

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 9289115)
I trust you are not a regular contributor to 7Days or Gulf News.:ohmy:

God no can't stand either rag so hardly likely to write to them.

Norm_uk Apr 7th 2011 6:36 am

Re: Maid abuse not restricted to the ME
 

Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 9288346)
The difference is in the UK or US or other Western democrasy, it is not wink wink sanctioned / given a pass by the government, unlike the Arab countries where the authorities just turn a blind eye or worse punish the victim.

Indeed...and like so many things in the West if there is a problem it will eventually be exposed and dealt with openly and seriously. Apologies will be issued and people will try to move on.

Switch to this region and people still can't admit things like the long running Arabian-African slave trade which went on longer than the Atlantic slave trade. I've yet to meet anyone from here who will admit that a third of the Christian world was annexed three centuries before the first crusade either.

So denial about modern problems like their treatment of labour is hardly going to be surprising. In any case they can always blame George Bush or the Zionists who that pastor who burnt a Koran can't they?

N.

Boomhauer Apr 8th 2011 7:15 am

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A military officer from the United Arab Emirates has been accused of luring a Filipina servant to the US and keeping her in virtual slavery.
You can take the Emirati out of the UAE but you can't take the .....

Not the first time an Arab government official has been found abusing their servants abroad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12980760

SugarMetal Apr 10th 2011 10:34 am

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9290923)
I've yet to meet anyone from here who will admit that a third of the Christian world was annexed three centuries before the first crusade either.


N.

That's more an issue of historical knowledge as it is anything else. And to to be fair I don't think many people in the Western world know about history which predates the first crusade by three centuries!

Boomhauer Apr 11th 2011 8:18 am

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I am optimistic that this scumbag gets his just desserts . The cynic in me thinks that since the US considers the UAE an important ally and one of the big oil producers, who knows?? US officials and UAE might collude and try to get some sort of deal going to get this POS off , like maybee conferring diplomatic immunity or some other trickery. I think Obama admin is much less prone to pull something than the previous one.

Bahtatboy Apr 11th 2011 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 9297620)
I am optimistic that this scumbag gets his just desserts . The cynic in me thinks that since the US considers the UAE an important ally and one of the big oil producers, who knows?? US officials and UAE might collude and try to get some sort of deal going to get this POS off , like maybee conferring diplomatic immunity or some other trickery. I think Obama admin is much less prone to pull something than the previous one.

Didn't work recently in the UK when the murdering Saudi tried to claim diplomatic immunity.

Norm_uk Apr 12th 2011 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by SugarMetal (Post 9296119)
That's more an issue of historical knowledge as it is anything else. And to to be fair I don't think many people in the Western world know about history which predates the first crusade by three centuries!

It's a lot more than a lack of historical knowledge...it's often pure denial even when presented with facts.

A more recent example would be the 1.2 million Europeans taken as slaves by the Barbary Pirates (a proxy of the Ottomans...now our "friend" Turkey...who also engaged in genocide of Greeks, Armenians and Kurds recently but deny all and continue to occupy Cyrpus!). The Barbary Pirates forced the USA to form a Navy and defeat them decisively as they refused to stop attacking merchant shipping from the new country (see the Treaty of Tripoli).

It has been argued that colonialism into much of the middle east was a response to piracy. The entire UAE was forced to be British protectorate because they raided our merchant ships for decades...

N.

shiva Apr 12th 2011 12:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 9300348)
The entire UAE was forced to be British protectorate because they raided our merchant ships for decades...

N.

RAK used to be the regional superpower until we sank 300 odd vessels in rak harbour in 18somat and is still a topic of contention locally

seven seas Apr 12th 2011 3:07 pm

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So what's Ms Walton trying to say?

The maid was offered a contract of 24/7 slavery but it wasn't translated correctly?


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