Machete attack in London
May 23rd 2013, 9:28 am
#76
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Re: Machete attack in London
personaly I think deportation is a bad idea. These guys are fundamentalists, going back to their home countries who knows what they will get involved in. They should not have any opportunity to spread their vile opinions or warp any other young vulnerable minds. Deporting them won't solve the problem.Life in prison in isolation- As much as Guatanamo bay possibly breaks a few human rights I believe they have some space.
May 23rd 2013, 9:34 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
personaly I think deportation is a bad idea. These guys are fundamentalists, going back to their home countries who knows what they will get involved in. They should not have any opportunity to spread their vile opinions or warp any other young vulnerable minds. Deporting them won't solve the problem.Life in prison in isolation- As much as Guatanamo bay possibly breaks a few human rights I believe they have some space.
May 23rd 2013, 9:34 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
They word things carefully so as to stay on the right side of the law. As I said, I bet the private face is rather different to the public one. And that comment applies equally to governments.
The phrase 'at war' as used by the governments refer to other issues, not the actions of two nutters on the streets. Issues like 15 nutters on some planes. I hardly think the situations compare. Only in scale. I don't like the language used by government and I am not convinced that yesterday's murder is actually a 'terrorist' act. It's too easy to use that kind of tabloid shorthand.
The phrase 'at war' as used by the governments refer to other issues, not the actions of two nutters on the streets. Issues like 15 nutters on some planes. I hardly think the situations compare. Only in scale. I don't like the language used by government and I am not convinced that yesterday's murder is actually a 'terrorist' act. It's too easy to use that kind of tabloid shorthand.
May 23rd 2013, 9:34 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
personaly I think deportation is a bad idea. These guys are fundamentalists, going back to their home countries who knows what they will get involved in. They should not have any opportunity to spread their vile opinions or warp any other young vulnerable minds. Deporting them won't solve the problem.Life in prison in isolation- As much as Guatanamo bay possibly breaks a few human rights I believe they have some space.
May 23rd 2013, 9:36 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
It appears the killers hailed from Nigeria, on a video I just watched he said hey did it because they want the killing to stop in their country.
May 23rd 2013, 9:39 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...slim-reprisals
"Scores of supporters of the English Defence League threw bottles at police and chanted anti-Muslim slogans in Woolwich hours after the murder of one man and the shooting of his two suspected assailants.
About 100 men, including some wearing balaclavas printed with "EDL", engaged in running battles with police for less than an hour."
"Scores of supporters of the English Defence League threw bottles at police and chanted anti-Muslim slogans in Woolwich hours after the murder of one man and the shooting of his two suspected assailants.
About 100 men, including some wearing balaclavas printed with "EDL", engaged in running battles with police for less than an hour."
Last edited by Meow; May 23rd 2013 at 9:41 am.
May 23rd 2013, 9:42 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
By denying it as an act of terror we lessen the crime, this was not a crime of passion in the heat of the moment but a calculated act designed to inflame.
May 23rd 2013, 9:43 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...slim-reprisals
"Scores of supporters of the English Defence League threw bottles at police and chanted anti-Muslim slogans in Woolwich hours after the murder of one man and the shooting of his two suspected assailants.
About 100 men, including some wearing balaclavas printed with "EDL", engaged in running battles with police for less than an hour."
"Scores of supporters of the English Defence League threw bottles at police and chanted anti-Muslim slogans in Woolwich hours after the murder of one man and the shooting of his two suspected assailants.
About 100 men, including some wearing balaclavas printed with "EDL", engaged in running battles with police for less than an hour."
May 23rd 2013, 9:44 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
You have got to be kidding. For argument's sake, let's say you were born in the UAE and have a passport. Your cousins have similar but you aren't close and have nothing to do with them on a daily basis. One of them commits a terrible crime and you think it's fair that you and your immediate family should be deported, back to a country you never lived in?
May 23rd 2013, 9:48 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
You have got to be kidding. For argument's sake, let's say you were born in the UAE and have a passport. Your cousins have similar but you aren't close and have nothing to do with them on a daily basis. One of them commits a terrible crime and you think it's fair that you and your immediate family should be deported, back to a country you never lived in?
May 23rd 2013, 9:49 am
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Re: Machete attack in London
Do you really think that voilent nutters who are prepared to commit such atrocities really care about anyone?
