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Dubaiexile Jul 8th 2017 6:03 am

Lions Final Test
 
Well who is watching the Lions v New Zealand today, and where??

Unfortunately I cannot as work as interfered, but it should be a cracking match!!!

If your lucky enough to be watching enjoy!

IKnowNothing Jul 8th 2017 6:09 am

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I have 3 choices, McGettigans in JLT (Overpriced shite), Goodfellas at tecom (better), Jebal Ali Club (a bit "down to earth"), I'll be at one of the latter two.

BEVS Jul 8th 2017 6:47 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 
Will be watching here in New Zealand .
Couldn't afford tickets,flights,accom and don't have Sky so will watch via a vpn.

Pongo Jul 8th 2017 7:03 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 
Meh

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 9th 2017 4:39 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 
What a test but what an anti-climax.

Nevermind, can't wait for months and years of Kiwi whining.

Dubaiexile Jul 9th 2017 8:36 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12289972)
What a test but what an anti-climax.

Nevermind, can't wait for months and years of Kiwi whining.



And they will

Charl01 Jul 9th 2017 8:56 am

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Sadly to be honest the Kiwis were robbed of the series, that should have been a penalty

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 9th 2017 9:07 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Charl01 (Post 12290088)
Sadly to be honest the Kiwis were robbed of the series, that should have been a penalty

I disrespectfully disagree. Could have been called either way potentially.

There were lots of 50/50 calls the entire series. They all fell both ways.

Miss Ann Thrope Jul 9th 2017 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12290095)
I disrespectfully disagree. Could have been called either way potentially.

There were lots of 50/50 calls the entire series. They all fell both ways.

And clearly video replays/TMOs will sort out all the controversies in football also...

jam25mack Jul 9th 2017 10:32 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12290095)
I disrespectfully disagree. Could have been called either way potentially.

There were lots of 50/50 calls the entire series. They all fell both ways.

Agree, I think the refs always have a hard time when reffing the all blacks. They're the Barcelona of rugby and get let off with loads of things which they know and use to their advantage. To say they're a relatively dirty team is an understatement.

jam25mack Jul 9th 2017 10:36 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope (Post 12290108)
And clearly video replays/TMOs will sort out all the controversies in football also...

I'm split on the whole opinion of introducing a TMO type system in football. Sometimes refs have a shocker and scumbags are allowed to get away with things they shouldn't BUT thats kind of half the fun with football, being able to have discussion / arguments with your mates who support rival teams. Not sure if there were video replays it would kill the essence of the game somewhat. Possibly a watered down version or a certain amount of decision challenges allowed by the captain would work better. I'm not sure.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 9th 2017 11:35 am

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope (Post 12290108)
And clearly video replays/TMOs will sort out all the controversies in football also...

I know...makes it watertight doesn't it....:blink:


Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12290126)
Agree, I think the refs always have a hard time when reffing the all blacks. They're the Barcelona of rugby and get let off with loads of things which they know and use to their advantage. To say they're a relatively dirty team is an understatement.

Definitely. In rugby there's an expectation that the attacking / stronger team gets more decisions because they're on the front foot. NZ always are so probably get quite a few decisions. Richie McCaw was one of the greatest players the game has ever seen but by jolly was a lot of his greatness in the greyest areas around the lines of what's legal or not.


Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12290129)
I'm split on the whole opinion of introducing a TMO type system in football. Sometimes refs have a shocker and scumbags are allowed to get away with things they shouldn't BUT thats kind of half the fun with football, being able to have discussion / arguments with your mates who support rival teams. Not sure if there were video replays it would kill the essence of the game somewhat. Possibly a watered down version or a certain amount of decision challenges allowed by the captain would work better. I'm not sure.

Challenges might be a good idea.
I'd like to see the retrospective stuff grow. More punishments for things unpunished or lightly punished when severe was more appropriate.

jam25mack Jul 9th 2017 1:03 pm

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12290149)
Challenges might be a good idea.
I'd like to see the retrospective stuff grow. More punishments for things unpunished or lightly punished when severe was more appropriate.

More retrospective action would be good but even that's a bit of a joke. Lack of consistency from one incident to the next depending on the team / player etc, ages to announce they will look at an incident, ages to make a decision, appeals that allow them to delay any ban so they can play in a certain game, if the ref saw / dealt with it meaning it is closed etc etc.

I think challenges could work. Say three per game at the choice of the captain / manager and only for sendings off, red cards, second yellows, offsides (play the whistle), claims of simulation..... after you've used your 3 tough titties. Similar approach to rugby where the ref asks the question and the chaps behind the screen gives him a concise answer 30-60 secs later.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 9th 2017 1:16 pm

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12290181)
More retrospective action would be good but even that's a bit of a joke. Lack of consistency from one incident to the next depending on the team / player etc, ages to announce they will look at an incident, ages to make a decision, appeals that allow them to delay any ban so they can play in a certain game, if the ref saw / dealt with it meaning it is closed etc etc.

I think challenges could work. Say three per game at the choice of the captain / manager and only for sendings off, red cards, second yellows, offsides (play the whistle), claims of simulation..... after you've used your 3 tough titties. Similar approach to rugby where the ref asks the question and the chaps behind the screen gives him a concise answer 30-60 secs later.

Not a bad idea.

The only time I've ever seen any upset at TMO decisions is in the rugby when it's the 9th try of a rout and nobody in the stadium thought it wasn't a try and going to TMO is a waste of time.

Other than that, it doesn't spoil the game. The sides can ben getting ready for the next stage, quick huddle, quick chat. It is what it is.

3 challenges might be generous. One per half? Lose it if it's wrong?
A little bit American but it works in the NFL where the referees / umpires go to a hut with a screen and review the play before making a decision.

Miss Ann Thrope Jul 9th 2017 2:43 pm

Re: Lions Final Test
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12290188)
Not a bad idea.

A little bit American but it works in the NFL where the referees / umpires go to a hut with a screen and review the play before making a decision.

But an NFL game takes 3 hours with constant stoppages and changes of personnel so the interruption is less intrusive in what is already a (ridiculously) fragmented set of activities. Think of even three challenges per team in a football match and how disruptive it would be???


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