Re: A level results
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 9588029)
.......... yes, but the photographers I know (which I admit is only three, and they all specialise in sports photography) started out as essentially self-taught, working with seasoned pros, picking up tips, working in developing and processing, etc - i.e. getting their hands dirty learning the hard way.
Yes, it's a 'proper job' but I can't imagine an A-Level is the usual route into it. A lot of jobs can be learned by training with someone who already does it well - I've learned more about my work from experienced peers than from books and tapes despite my industry demanding qualifications. That said I am an an autodidact - formal study is still a good thing if only to confirm what you already know. N. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 9599362)
So while we all sit here claiming greatness and that the spotty kids of today are stupid and doing easier exams - how did you lot do?
For me, I was old school. 3 exams, 3 A's. Couldn't be bothered doing any more as I only needed 3 for university. Physics - A Maths - A Chemistry - A Only my maths teacher saw my potential - she told me I talk so much I should be a politician. She even offered to vote for me... N. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 9599362)
So while we all sit here claiming greatness and that the spotty kids of today are stupid and doing easier exams - how did you lot do?
For me, I was old school. 3 exams, 3 A's. Couldn't be bothered doing any more as I only needed 3 for university. Physics - A Maths - A Chemistry - A some Oxbridge-bound students managed 4th A'Level now you see a lot of students doing 5-6 A'Levels. that shows they are easier. think the same has happened at Uni as well though. When I did my first degree less than 10pct got 2.1's. now the majority of students seem to get them. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 9602997)
now you see a lot of students doing 5-6 A'Levels. that shows they are easier...
Strange though. I seem to recall that at his age I knew far more than I do now... |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 9603140)
Tosh. My 19-year old son got 3 A's at A-Level, and I'm frequently left dumbfounded and confused by his comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of every subject under the sun. He even has what must be an inate ability to compound his omniscience with the experience of those things he has never experienced. In fact his galactic omni-everythingness sometimes makes debate futile.
Strange though. I seem to recall that at his age I knew far more than I do now... I happened to bump into the Head of Classics there a while back, and remarked that I did pretty well in my Latin A-Level in 1974. His (immediate) reply: "Well that's like having a Classics degree these days." Shocked I was, I can tell you. In my German A-Level essay, I had to write about the differences between UK and German trade unions - in German. My daughter studied German to the same level, and still to this day cannot believe I had to do that. These days, they are taught to 'reason' and 'opine' and 'discuss', but they definitely know less in factual terms. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 9602997)
when I did mine everybody did 3 A'Levels plus General Studies
some Oxbridge-bound students managed 4th A'Level now you see a lot of students doing 5-6 A'Levels. that shows they are easier. think the same has happened at Uni as well though. When I did my first degree less than 10pct got 2.1's. now the majority of students seem to get them. People are able to use computers and research topics much quicker than having to use crappy school/public libraries for info/quotes. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Bob
(Post 9604398)
I think it's the internet.
People are able to use computers and research topics much quicker than having to use crappy school/public libraries for info/quotes. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 9603896)
These days, they are taught to 'reason' and 'opine' and 'discuss', but they definitely know less in factual terms.
I remember when I sat my A levels this debate had already started and people were saying the same then. It's probably true, and I admit that I always used very old (mid 80s) past papers to practice on for this very reason. However, this is a debate that has gone on, to my knowledge, for at least 14 years and it's boring. In today's world you don't have to know everything... you just need to know where to look. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 9604706)
So you reckon teenage boys are using the internet for their school studies?:rofl:
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Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 9604808)
I just hope the girls are looking at the same. A generation of nypmhs for when I hit my mid life crisis is no bad thing.
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Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Inselaffen
(Post 9602997)
when I did mine everybody did 3 A'Levels plus General Studies
some Oxbridge-bound students managed 4th A'Level now you see a lot of students doing 5-6 A'Levels. that shows they are easier. My results would have been massively improved had I taken off to Germany for a month in the summer after Lower 6th. Ho hum. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by Millhouse
(Post 9604807)
Which is a good thing. Being able to 'reason' and 'opine' and 'discuss' are skills which are carried through life. Learning facts that are forgotten the day after the exam is pointless.
I remember when I sat my A levels this debate had already started and people were saying the same then. It's probably true, and I admit that I always used very old (mid 80s) past papers to practice on for this very reason. However, this is a debate that has gone on, to my knowledge, for at least 14 years and it's boring. In today's world you don't have to know everything... you just need to know where to look. "Do you have any qualifications or experience?" "No, but I can use Google." "Fine - the job's yours..............." No thanks - knowledge and education are a good thing in their own right. |
Re: A level results
Originally Posted by The Dean
(Post 9605899)
But what's the point of exams if they are easy (which some undoubtedly are). I don't care about knowing where to look.........
"Do you have any qualifications or experience?" "No, but I can use Google." "Fine - the job's yours..............." No thanks - knowledge and education are a good thing in their own right. I would much rather someone saying - 'oh, I know a little bit about that, let me find out more and come back to you with the answer' over 'no, sorry, I don't know how to do that - do you have a template I can fill in' |
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