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Eva Nov 8th 2008 5:16 am

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6953452)
Poppy is worn with pride. Will have my private minutes silence on the 11th to reflect.

As will many of us.
And 'thank you'.
Karma'd

The Dean Nov 8th 2008 6:37 am

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Originally Posted by Eva (Post 6953461)
As will many of us.
And 'thank you'.
Karma'd

When I worked in the City I always used to walk out to the memorial garden at St Paul's Cathedral at 11.00 on the 11th Nov for the two minute silence and the eulogy.

One year my boss tried to stop me ("We're too busy"), so I told him to go and f-ck himself. He called Personnel Dept to report me for my outrageous behaviour and language............. but there was no reply - Personnel Dept were all outside, waiting for me to join them.

Always an utterly moving moment, made specially so one year when a cabbie came and stood beside me. Afterwards I asked him if he'd lost anyone in the war.

"Oh yeah" he said. "Grandad in the First, dad in the Second.........".

Lest we forget, indeed...........

Eva Nov 8th 2008 7:33 am

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6953632)
When I worked in the City I always used to walk out to the memorial garden at St Paul's Cathedral at 11.00 on the 11th Nov for the two minute silence and the eulogy.

One year my boss tried to stop me ("We're too busy"), so I told him to go and f-ck himself. He called Personnel Dept to report me for my outrageous behaviour and language............. but there was no reply - Personnel Dept were all outside, waiting for me to join them.

Always an utterly moving moment, made specially so one year when a cabbie came and stood beside me. Afterwards I asked him if he'd lost anyone in the war.

"Oh yeah" he said. "Grandad in the First, dad in the Second.........".

Lest we forget, indeed...........


I have sat many a day in the gardens of St Paul's -p'haps not on 11.11. but
very peaceful place in the madness of the city.
Karma'd

commander Nov 8th 2008 6:53 pm

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My most ponient remembrance day service was one that i attended on the flightdeck of my ship, on 11th November 1998 in San carlos Bay, Falkland Islands. We were anchored above HMS Antelope, which was sunk, then we sent down our divers to change the ensign on the wreckage.

As my birthday is the 11th, i always requested to read a passage at the service, and when i read out the 'we will remember them', to see the look the men next to me who 16 years previously had been here in much different circumstances, some of them survivors of HMS Sheffield, Coventry and my mate Ray who was on the Antelope when it was hit (although it sank much later), was something i will never forget.

As was attending the remembrance service in 2003 remembering the fallen in Iraqi Freedom..Remembering the lives of people whose demise, so pointless and tragic as non peacetime accidents are, is something i always reflect on.

And to those who glorify conflict, ill easily take a moment to explain what the reality is...

The Dean Nov 8th 2008 7:30 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6954890)
My most ponient remembrance day service was one that i attended on the flightdeck of my ship, on 11th November 1998 in San carlos Bay, Falkland Islands. We were anchored above HMS Antelope, which was sunk, then we sent down our divers to change the ensign on the wreckage.

As my birthday is the 11th, i always requested to read a passage at the service, and when i read out the 'we will remember them', to see the look the men next to me who 16 years previously had been here in much different circumstances, some of them survivors of HMS Sheffield, Coventry and my mate Ray who was on the Antelope when it was hit (although it sank much later), was something i will never forget.

As was attending the remembrance service in 2003 remembering the fallen in Iraqi Freedom..Remembering the lives of people whose demise, so pointless and tragic as non peacetime accidents are, is something i always reflect on.

And to those who glorify conflict, ill easily take a moment to explain what the reality is...

Commander, if there is an end-of-year poll for "Post Of The Year", you have just won my vote.

Never realised a post on a message board could be so moving - well done.

Blue Cat Nov 8th 2008 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Madam Medusa (Post 6953435)
yep, got mine last week...

MM, xx

me too :thumbup:

The Dean Nov 8th 2008 10:01 pm

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It's now 11.00am in UK.

Remembrance starts now............

commander Nov 8th 2008 10:19 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6955281)
It's now 11.00am in UK.

Remembrance starts now............

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh

commander Nov 8th 2008 10:24 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6955327)
sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh

http://i37.tinypic.com/mima0k.jpg

Madam Medusa Nov 9th 2008 4:52 am

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...and here's one of the simulteneously funniest and most poignant sketches i've seen...blackadder goes forth...



MM, xx

Blue Cat Nov 10th 2008 8:38 pm

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bumping this up :)

commander Nov 10th 2008 8:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6961296)
bumping this up :)

i expect BE to shut down for 2 mins at 15:00UAE time. I have brought it poppies for the troops today, and we will observe in a dignified silence.

(Celtic FC take note, a minutes applause is neither appropriate nor dignified.)

Blue Cat Nov 10th 2008 8:45 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6961307)
i expect BE to shut down for 2 mins at 15:00UAE time. I have brought it poppies for the troops today, and we will observe in a dignified silence.

(Celtic FC take note, a minutes applause is neither appropriate nor dignified.)

yes sir (salutes) :)

Charismatic Nov 10th 2008 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6961317)
yes sir (salutes) :)

I think that should be "Sir, yes, sir" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../salutebst.gif.

I was thinking the other day that my generation will be the first in my family not to take up military service for about 100 years. I hope we are the first of many generations to live in peaceful times :).

The Dean Nov 10th 2008 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6961307)
i expect BE to shut down for 2 mins at 15:00UAE time. I have brought it poppies for the troops today, and we will observe in a dignified silence.

(Celtic FC take note, a minutes applause is neither appropriate nor dignified.)

Agreed - and here in the office I will be accompanied by two South African colleagues as we step outside for two minutes of respectful silence.

The Dean Nov 10th 2008 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Blue Cat (Post 6961317)
yes sir (salutes) :)

It's not to be trivialised BC............

ctfc Nov 10th 2008 9:59 pm

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They shall grow not old,
As we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them,
Nor the years condemn,
At the going down of the sun
And in the morning
We will remember them.

commander Nov 10th 2008 10:00 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6961420)
It's not to be trivialised BC............

Pipe the still..........

commander Nov 10th 2008 10:02 pm

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carry on........

The Dean Nov 10th 2008 10:12 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6961482)
carry on........

Beautifully observed here............

There we were, myself and a fellow Englishman, and SA and Filipino colleagues, standing/waiting outside the main entrance of the bank at about 10.58GMT when two Saudi colleagues walked by, and asked what we were doing.

I told them, and they said "May we join you?".

Of course they could.......... not sure if they fully understood the significance of it, but it struck me as the sort of gesture that, if about 6 billion people could emulate it, would make the world a better place.

commander Nov 10th 2008 10:13 pm

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now, in true armed forces tradition, lets get sozzled have a drunken fight with eachother and then try and pump a fat lass..

The Dean Nov 10th 2008 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6961513)
now, in true armed forces tradition, lets get sozzled have a drunken fight with eachother and then try and pump a fat lass..

Brilliant idea..............

......... I'll tell the Saudi guys...........

commander Nov 10th 2008 10:17 pm

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6961511)
Beautifully observed here............

There we were, myself and a fellow Englishman, and SA and Filipino colleagues, standing/waiting outside the main entrance of the bank at about 10.58GMT when two Saudi colleagues walked by, and asked what we were doing.

I told them, and they said "May we join you?".

Of course they could.......... not sure if they fully understood the significance of it, but it struck me as the sort of gesture that, if about 6 billion people could emulate it, would make the world a better place.

that, my friend is truly fantastic. Well done.

Same here, 3 Scots, 1SA, 1 Philipeno..stood up head bowed.

My french colleague kept on trying to call me so the phone was switched off well before. His phone is now going direct to the answerphone, one of my pals commented that he has maybe surrendered it to ze Germans..(who are our customers)

Amazing Grace Nov 10th 2008 10:40 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 6954890)
My most ponient remembrance day service was one that i attended on the flightdeck of my ship, on 11th November 1998 in San carlos Bay, Falkland Islands. We were anchored above HMS Antelope, which was sunk, then we sent down our divers to change the ensign on the wreckage.

As my birthday is the 11th, i always requested to read a passage at the service, and when i read out the 'we will remember them', to see the look the men next to me who 16 years previously had been here in much different circumstances, some of them survivors of HMS Sheffield, Coventry and my mate Ray who was on the Antelope when it was hit (although it sank much later), was something i will never forget.

As was attending the remembrance service in 2003 remembering the fallen in Iraqi Freedom..Remembering the lives of people whose demise, so pointless and tragic as non peacetime accidents are, is something i always reflect on.

And to those who glorify conflict, ill easily take a moment to explain what the reality is...

Commander, AA Man's best friend and his boss were the BD guys who went on board one of the naval ships to defuse a bomb which had not exploded. There was a faulty trigger and sadly Cpl Jim Prescott RE lost his life and WOII John Phillips RE lost his arm in the explosion. So today I remember them both and all the other young lives lost in that particular war and all the other wars which our young people fight so bravely to stop.

I wear my poppy with pride as an ex military person myself and i stopped for a few minutes at 3pm local time here in UAE to remember them all. God Bless and keep our troops safe in the future days.

commander Nov 10th 2008 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazing Grace (Post 6961570)
Commander, AA Man's best friend and his boss were the BD guys who went on board one of the naval ships to defuse a bomb which had not exploded. There was a faulty trigger and sadly Cpl Jim Prescott RE lost his life and WOII John Phillips RE lost his arm in the explosion. So today I remember them both and all the other young lives lost in that particular war and all the other wars which our young people fight so bravely to stop.

I wear my poppy with pride as an ex military person myself and i stopped for a few minutes at 3pm local time here in UAE to remember them all. God Bless and keep our troops safe in the future days.


Grace, my earlier photo is HMS Antelope shortly after the incident occurred when your husbands friends were killed and maimed. The resultant explosion which tragically occurred, caused widespread fires and the explosion was the seacat magazine (IIRC) exploding. At that moment, all the crew (including the Steward who was killed in the Petty officers mess upon impact, and the RE team) had been evacuated.

The antelope sunk in a defiant 'V' sign which says it all really, broken but never beaten..

It is an official war grave in San Carlos bay, where the RN ship on station always send divers down to change the ensign.

We will remember..

The Dean Nov 10th 2008 11:59 pm

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If Confucius includes a "Thread Of The Year" category in his end-of-year poll, there will only be one winner............

Beautifully put, Grace, Commander et al..........

Amazing Grace Nov 11th 2008 3:16 am

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Thank you to everyone who has contributed to such a very poignant thread which affects each and everyone of us. Thank you and God Bless:wub:

commander Nov 11th 2008 4:02 am

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3 cheers for the red white and blue
3 cheers for the red white and blue
For the Army and the Navy and the RAF
3 cheers for the red white and blue

God bless the young service men and women who have given and who continue to give their lives for their country.

Today we all remember however some never ever can forget, the sleepless nights, the horrors revisited with alarming regularity.

To the survivors of conflict, who still suffer the emotional and psychological trauma of their experiences, I am thinking of you and praying for your resolve to be strong. There IS help available.

Peace

Cry haddock Oct 19th 2009 11:23 pm

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Hi All,

As the poppy appeal will shortly be kicking off, I need a quick hand. Can anyone put me in touch with the RBL representative who can supply the collection tins? I still have plenty of poppies from years gone by but my contact (Frank) seems to have disappeared.

For the first time in 10+ years i will be in the UK this November and look forward to taking my cold, wet place in the crowd rather than being alone on a sandy street.

Cheers,
CH

Nic1 Oct 21st 2009 10:21 pm

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My mum marched each year, and then was pushed in a wheelchair the last couple of years - it was a very special weekend for her.

I will be a proud parent this year as my two have joined the ATC and will be 'on parade'.

N

lionheart Oct 21st 2009 10:25 pm

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Personally, my donations will be going to those innocent victims of the typhoons and earthquakes in the Phillipines and Indonesia rather than to the families of those who chose to join the Armed Services.

commander Oct 21st 2009 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 8036091)
Personally, my donations will be going to those innocent victims of the typhoons and earthquakes in the Phillipines and Indonesia rather than to the families of those who chose to join the Armed Services.

if you donate at the same level that you spend your cash on dinners and educate your daughter, im sure the British Legion will not be shutting its doors upon hearing this tragic news..

another grain of rice donated by Lionfart.

lionheart Oct 21st 2009 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by commander (Post 8036146)
if you donate at the same level that you spend your cash on dinners and educate your daughter, im sure the British Legion will not be shutting its doors upon hearing this tragic news..

another grain of rice donated by Lionfart.

and its Mr. Lionfart to you, general.:p

commander Oct 22nd 2009 4:16 am

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Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 8036180)
and its Mr. Lionfart to you, general.:p

bloody civvies

Inselaffen Oct 22nd 2009 5:05 pm

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hopefully will find somewhere to get my poppy over here.

never served in the forces but my respect goes to those who were injured or lost their lives in the service of our country!

ctfc Oct 25th 2009 6:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 8038322)
hopefully will find somewhere to get my poppy over here.

never served in the forces but my respect goes to those who were injured or lost their lives in the service of our country!

Repton School have RBL poppies in reception now if you know anyone with kids there.

Cry haddock Oct 25th 2009 10:57 pm

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Originally Posted by ctfc (Post 8045041)
Repton School have RBL poppies in reception now if you know anyone with kids there.

In Dubai, the contact for donation tins and boxes of poppies is Cpt Higgins RN (rtd), or his secretary Lorraine, at Dubai college - 04 3999111. If a few of us go the route of organising sales then everyone wins.

CH

Eva Nov 6th 2009 11:19 pm

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Time to bump this up....



Aftermath

Siegfried Sassoon (1919)


Have you forgotten yet?...
For the world’s events have rumbled on since those gagged days,
Like traffic checked while at the crossing of city-ways:
And the haunted gap in your mind has filled with thoughts that flow
Like clouds in the lit heaven of life; and you’re a man reprieved to go,
Taking your peaceful share of Time, with joy to spare.

But the past is just the same-and War’s a bloody game...
Have you forgotten yet?...
Look down, and swear by the slain of the War that you’ll never forget.

Do you remember the dark months you held the sector at Mametz-
The nights you watched and wired and dug and piled sandbags on parapets?
Do you remember the rats; and the stench
Of corpses rotting in front of the front-line trench-
And dawn coming, dirty-white, and chill with a hopeless rain?
Do you ever stop and ask, ‘Is it all going to happen again?’

Do you remember that hour of din before the attack-
And the anger, the blind compassion that seized and shook you then
As you peered at the doomed and haggard faces of your men?
Do you remember the stretcher-cases lurching back
With dying eyes and lolling heads-those ashen-grey
Masks of the lads who once were keen and kind and gay?

Have you forgotten yet?...
Look up, and swear by
the green of the spring that you’ll never forget.

rowell Nov 7th 2009 9:24 pm

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For The Fallen
With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
England mourns for her dead across the sea.
Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
Fallen in the cause of the free.

Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
There is music in the midst of desolation
And a glory that shines upon our tears.

They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
They fell with their faces to the foe.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond England's foam.

But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night;

As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.

commander Nov 7th 2009 9:34 pm

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Originally Posted by rowell (Post 8080890)
For The Fallen
With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children,
Britain mourns for her dead across the sea.
Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit,
Fallen in the cause of the free.

Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal
Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres,
There is music in the midst of desolation
And a glory that shines upon our tears.

They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted;
They fell with their faces to the foe.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

They mingle not with their laughing comrades again;
They sit no more at familiar tables of home;
They have no lot in our labour of the day-time;
They sleep beyond Britain's foam.

But where our desires are and our hopes profound,
Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight,
To the innermost heart of their own land they are known
As the stars are known to the Night;

As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust,
Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain;
As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness,
To the end, to the end, they remain.


Ive corrected that out of respect to the countless Scots/Welsh and NI servicemen and civilians who have lost their lives defending our country


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