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Old Feb 22nd 2013, 5:31 am
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BBC says same firm who built the Shard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21543469
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Being physically constructed by Osama Bin Laden's family business.
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Being physically constructed by Osama Bin Laden's family business employing defacto indentured Asian labourers
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Good old Mace. The contractor, the subcontractors, the consultants, the employer and any man walking his dog outside the site should expect to be swamped in contractual letters from this point on.
All parties will now have to hire teams of letter writers to deal with the 'value' added to the project. They will need another building this size to store the correspondence.

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My 1st thought was ...Thats a lot of concrete!
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How deep would the foundations be in order to support this building ?
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How deep would the foundations be in order to support this building ?
80m I think is reported. Couple of hundred piles.
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How deep would the foundations be in order to support this building ?
Actual foundation depth I maybe 8-10 metres depending on the structural system.
Depth below ground of the foundations could be anything from zero to the depth mentioned, as it is a function of the design (is there a car park etc) and the bearing capacity of the soil/rock. So it could just as easily sit on ground level as down a big hole.

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Good old Mace. The contractor, the subcontractors, the consultants, the employer and any man walking his dog outside the site should expect to be swamped in contractual letters from this point on.
All parties will now have to hire teams of letter writers to deal with the 'value' added to the project. They will need another building this size to store the correspondence.

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Are they bad for that?

Why? What benefit for them?
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Are they bad for that?

Why? What benefit for them?
ze blame game, then they try to hit everybody with counter charges. its a function of going in at a lower price to win the job.
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ze blame game, then they try to hit everybody with counter charges. its a function of going in at a lower price to win the job.
So most consultants do that sort of thing when going in cheap.

Can you see much success against bin Ladin though? They're part of the owning company and contractor!
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So most consultants do that sort of thing when going in cheap.

Can you see much success against bin Ladin though? They're part of the owning company and contractor!
Not as aggressively as Mace ,plus they will try take a cut of any savings they make through counter charges against subbies and so called value engineering (replacing materials with cheaper alternatives)
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Not as aggressively as Mace ,plus they will try take a cut of any savings they make through counter charges against subbies and so called value engineering (replacing materials with cheaper alternatives)
Fair enough. I like to know these things, useful, so thanks for that.

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Fair enough. I like to know these things, useful, so thanks for that.

EC Harris as bad?
In my experience Mace are by far the worst, they pulled a few shoddy stunts on me also for a tender of building in KAFD Riyadh, a 400m tower that's being built just now.
We are reluctant to work or tender on anything they are involved in to be honest.
Them and DAR Al Handasah are two we actively avoid.
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