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Old Oct 30th 2012, 3:13 am
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Old Oct 30th 2012, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by Meow
Luckily this lot don't have the gene for methemoglobinemia which gives a person blue skin. It's a hereditary condition and the best known case is a family of blue people, the Fugates, in Kentucky many years ago. They married too close for a few generations so the odd rogue and generally dormant gene became stronger and there were quite a number of them with blue skin.
As I understand it they were all banished to Fraggle Rock.
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Originally Posted by the_red_sheep
The theory is that a genetically viable population could grow from around 160 individuals - 80 men, 80 women - so they wouldn't have had to inbred for too long.
Mathematically that works, but practically it doesn't, early human societies simply didn't mix enough to avoid some degree of inbreeding. It's just that hunter gatherers were probably a good bit less sentimental about what happened babies born with defects.

Plus there's a good argument to suggest that in the same way wolves were tamed into dogs, a similar process happened with early humans who, before they tamed themselves, you almost certainly wouldn't want to meet.

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All I know is I definitely wouldn't **** my cousin.

She's not my type.
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I don't have any cousins so I'm not getting any.
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Originally Posted by Cypselos
I don't have any cousins so I'm not getting any.
My cousin is as fit as a butchers dog, but the six toes on each foot is a bit of a turn off.
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Old Oct 30th 2012, 12:43 pm
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Qataris are subject to DNA testing before they marry due to the prevalence of 'in-breeding'. The programme was introduced to establish whether it was going to be ok for said potential suitors to breed (i.e. were they genetically different enough to produce non-disabled offspring).
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Qataris are subject to DNA testing before they marry due to the prevalence of 'in-breeding'. The programme was introduced to establish whether it was going to be ok for said potential suitors to breed (i.e. were they genetically different enough to produce non-disabled offspring).
same in UAE.
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same in UAE.
Are they tested for more than thalassaemia?

Edit> And if there's a problem are people actually prevented from marrying?
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Old Oct 30th 2012, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Meow
Are they tested for more than thalassaemia?

Edit> And if there's a problem are people actually prevented from marrying?
think so and no, they are advised about the increased risk but afaik thats about it
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I remember at secondary school there was a family with a very odd & unique look about them - think Danny Devito as 'the penguin' in Batman.

There was at least 4 siblings who all looked very similar - but strangely similar - the facial features didn't really differentiate between the males or the females and body size and shape was consistent throughout as well - all were short, fat and round. Stubby legs and arms and fingers.

The rumour was that they're parents were first cousins.

Strange but true
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Old Oct 30th 2012, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Cypselos
Mathematically that works, but practically it doesn't, early human societies simply didn't mix enough to avoid some degree of inbreeding. It's just that hunter gatherers were probably a good bit less sentimental about what happened babies born with defects. rubbish, they were probably no less sentimental, what they would have been would have been more practical and aware that there was nothing they could do. Also there is increasing evidence that contact between early groups was frequent, sought out and happened over incredible distances, we have evidence of trade from as far afield as the Tibetan plateau into Scotland. it seems early man was no less keen to socialize, swap the latest gadgets and gossip than we are.

Plus there's a good argument to suggest that in the same way wolves were tamed into dogs, a similar process happened with early humans who, before they tamed themselves, you almost certainly wouldn't want to meet.
early humans tamed themselves, really? utter balderdash, suggest some more up to date reading than the comical nonsense of the 50's where early man was a crude club wielding fool.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer
I was wondering, since all humans are descended from a small band of hunter gatherers, the early humans had to inbreed and probably for tens of thousands of years afterwards?
Mitochondrial Eve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jou...enetic_Odyssey

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...hic/atlas.html

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
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A bit like this poor kid in India then, 26 fingers and toes.

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Old Oct 31st 2012, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by shiva
early humans tamed themselves, really? utter balderdash, suggest some more up to date reading than the comical nonsense of the 50's where early man was a crude club wielding fool.
I've read plenty thanks. But clearly Richard Dawkins and Jared Diamond are prime examples 50s thinking.

Trade routes do not automatically equate to large numbers of individuals moving around or travelling, and show me an example of trade routes before the upper paleolithic that extended more than about 50 miles. For three quarters of the period modern man has existed individual groups and tribes were highly localised. Inevitably there was interaction between groups but the gene pools were pretty limited.
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