Julian Assange
#17
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Re: Julian Assange
It gets curiouser and curiouser........ now the Foreign Office has issued a 'travel warning' for Ecuador.........
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...#travelSummary
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...#travelSummary
#18
Re: Julian Assange
The fact that he's being supported by Latin American banana republics confirms he is a useful tool for people like Chavez and his Iranian buddies (who have massive influence in Latin America) to name a few. He's not exposed half of these dirty little countries as much as he has with the US/UK and allies. Either a witting or unwitting ally of the far left in my opinion.
If he sets foot outside the Embassy our police should arrest him and send him to Sweden...if he's innocent he will have nothing to fear there.
N.
#19
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Re: Julian Assange
Sweden is hardly a nation known for unfair trials and poor judicial procedures - if he is an innocent man he should get on a plane and face charges. His avoidance of that is a sign of guilt.
The fact that he's being supported by Latin American banana republics confirms he is a useful tool for people like Chavez and his Iranian buddies (who have massive influence in Latin America) to name a few. He's not exposed half of these dirty little countries as much as he has with the US/UK and allies. Either a witting or unwitting ally of the far left in my opinion.
If he sets foot outside the Embassy our police should arrest him and send him to Sweden...if he's innocent he will have nothing to fear there.
N.
The fact that he's being supported by Latin American banana republics confirms he is a useful tool for people like Chavez and his Iranian buddies (who have massive influence in Latin America) to name a few. He's not exposed half of these dirty little countries as much as he has with the US/UK and allies. Either a witting or unwitting ally of the far left in my opinion.
If he sets foot outside the Embassy our police should arrest him and send him to Sweden...if he's innocent he will have nothing to fear there.
N.
#20
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 188
Re: Julian Assange
Norm-uk, you took the words out of my mouth. Totally agree.
Let's face it, if it was you or me, we would be in the back of a black mariah before you could say 'hasta la vista baby'. What's good enough for us is good enough for him.
Let's face it, if it was you or me, we would be in the back of a black mariah before you could say 'hasta la vista baby'. What's good enough for us is good enough for him.
#21
Re: Julian Assange
I doubt he has done much wrong and seeing as several prominent people have risked their reputations on very publicly backing him I fear it could be a witchhunt. Only today in the Daily fail It has pictures of him with one of the Alleged abused several days after the event was supposed to of happened, But we will see.
I think the most important aspect to Assange whether you like him or not he was a constant thorn in the side of the Yanks. The fact they just love to cover things up and paint a happy picture be it a War, political espionage or Industrial **** ups Assange was the figure head of a website that showed the rest of the world what was really going on.
If you have not seen it I recommend spending 15 minutes of your life watching this -
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
This to me is truly shocking and may explain why the US would act the way it does to Wikileaks and Assange?
I think the most important aspect to Assange whether you like him or not he was a constant thorn in the side of the Yanks. The fact they just love to cover things up and paint a happy picture be it a War, political espionage or Industrial **** ups Assange was the figure head of a website that showed the rest of the world what was really going on.
If you have not seen it I recommend spending 15 minutes of your life watching this -
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
This to me is truly shocking and may explain why the US would act the way it does to Wikileaks and Assange?
#22
Re: Julian Assange
I doubt he has done much wrong and seeing as several prominent people have risked their reputations on very publicly backing him I fear it could be a witchhunt. Only today in the Daily fail It has pictures of him with one of the Alleged abused several days after the event was supposed to of happened, But we will see.
I think the most important aspect to Assange whether you like him or not he was a constant thorn in the side of the Yanks. The fact they just love to cover things up and paint a happy picture be it a War, political espionage or Industrial **** ups Assange was the figure head of a website that showed the rest of the world what was really going on.
If you have not seen it I recommend spending 15 minutes of your life watching this -
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
This to me is truly shocking and may explain why the US would act the way it does to Wikileaks and Assange?
I think the most important aspect to Assange whether you like him or not he was a constant thorn in the side of the Yanks. The fact they just love to cover things up and paint a happy picture be it a War, political espionage or Industrial **** ups Assange was the figure head of a website that showed the rest of the world what was really going on.
If you have not seen it I recommend spending 15 minutes of your life watching this -
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
This to me is truly shocking and may explain why the US would act the way it does to Wikileaks and Assange?
I'm all for exposing crimes and monkey business but he's gone too far - leaking things that threatened security and stability.
N.
#23
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Re: Julian Assange
Much as I dislike the New Statesman there is a very good article, with links to facts, in it which (to my mind) very much shows that Assange has a case to answer, under Swedish law, and has dragged things out in the UK to the extent of taking the piss: http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/da...ge-extradition
#24
Re: Julian Assange
Sweden is hardly a nation known for unfair trials and poor judicial procedures - if he is an innocent man he should get on a plane and face charges. His avoidance of that is a sign of guilt.
The fact that he's being supported by Latin American banana republics confirms he is a useful tool for people like Chavez and his Iranian buddies (who have massive influence in Latin America) to name a few. He's not exposed half of these dirty little countries as much as he has with the US/UK and allies. Either a witting or unwitting ally of the far left in my opinion.
If he sets foot outside the Embassy our police should arrest him and send him to Sweden...if he's innocent he will have nothing to fear there.
N.
The fact that he's being supported by Latin American banana republics confirms he is a useful tool for people like Chavez and his Iranian buddies (who have massive influence in Latin America) to name a few. He's not exposed half of these dirty little countries as much as he has with the US/UK and allies. Either a witting or unwitting ally of the far left in my opinion.
If he sets foot outside the Embassy our police should arrest him and send him to Sweden...if he's innocent he will have nothing to fear there.
N.
#25
Re: Julian Assange
Much as I dislike the New Statesman there is a very good article, with links to facts, in it which (to my mind) very much shows that Assange has a case to answer, under Swedish law, and has dragged things out in the UK to the extent of taking the piss: http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/da...ge-extradition
The 1st one has now also left Sweden and according to some broadsheets lost interest in pursuing the matter.
All I know is he has mightily pissed off some important people, If he is guilty of Rape he should be castrated as all rapists should be but something seems fishy here.......................
#27
Re: Julian Assange
He offered to do that either via video link or with Sweden's prosecutors at the Swedish Embassy or his Lawyers office. Both requests were refused. Why? If all they wanted to do was interview him why can't they do one of the above? Doesn't make any sense at all to me.
Why has the Swedish government come out and categorically stated he will not be sent elsewhere if he goes to Sweden? Why?
He's also not been charged with anything yet, so innocent until proved guilty guys....
Why has the Swedish government come out and categorically stated he will not be sent elsewhere if he goes to Sweden? Why?
He's also not been charged with anything yet, so innocent until proved guilty guys....
#28
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Re: Julian Assange
He OFFERED? There's nice of him. If a member of your family were sexually abused or raped, and he was a suspect, would you negotiate with him on his terms. The law is the law, and having a high public profile or money should have no bearing on it. This is a load of shite, and he should face the music. If he is innocent then that's that.
If he has annoyed and stolen from governments for what ever reason, he should also face upto the consequences. Everyone else has. This is not a matter of revealing secrets what he thinks the public should know, even though he puts a lot of people in danger in doing so. That is another matter and should not be confused.
If he has annoyed and stolen from governments for what ever reason, he should also face upto the consequences. Everyone else has. This is not a matter of revealing secrets what he thinks the public should know, even though he puts a lot of people in danger in doing so. That is another matter and should not be confused.
#30
Re: Julian Assange
He OFFERED? There's nice of him. If a member of your family were sexually abused or raped, and he was a suspect, would you negotiate with him on his terms. The law is the law, and having a high public profile or money should have no bearing on it. This is a load of shite, and he should face the music. If he is innocent then that's that.
If he has annoyed and stolen from governments for what ever reason, he should also face upto the consequences. Everyone else has. This is not a matter of revealing secrets what he thinks the public should know, even though he puts a lot of people in danger in doing so. That is another matter and should not be confused.
If he has annoyed and stolen from governments for what ever reason, he should also face upto the consequences. Everyone else has. This is not a matter of revealing secrets what he thinks the public should know, even though he puts a lot of people in danger in doing so. That is another matter and should not be confused.
So, say he goes to Sweden, is questioned, he wont get bail (Is there an Ecuadorian Embassy there?), and IF a pre arrangement has been made with the USA then what would you do in the situation?
He's not guilty at all, see posts above, would someone who had been raped be happy for a pic to be taken of her smiling and the rapist 48 hours later? Of course not.