BangleMan

I choose to watch Man U if they are on TV, but I dont support them

And from where do you get your info that Oxford fans are amongst the worst for fighting ......er, are you stuck in the 70;s & 80's, and even then they were not one of football's notorious hooligan element !

West Ham, Man Utd, Chelsea, Millwall, Leeds, Arsenal, Newcastle, Cardiff I'd give you, but Oxford ????

Went to Oxford's ground several times during the 80's to watch West Ham and cannot ever recall any violence then or since

lionheart

You try telling that to the bloody Welsh and to the even bloodier Kiwis.

lionheart

People tell me that Stoke City has the noisiest supporters and some of the most violent too. From my days of travelling to football games I found Derby the most hostile.

BangleMan

True, those countries are passionate about Rugby, and it is their national game, but football isnt the national game in the majority of sport playing countries.

Football, like it or not, provokes almost as many arguments day to day as religion does....maybe it is its working class beginnings, but there is something very tribal about football.

If you read any well written book about football hooliganism, it will tell you that for the blokes fighting week in week out when it was at its height in the 70's & 80's, to them, they were defending their team's name or the area they came from or lived in..............and rugby, probably because its was / is often seen as a middle class sport, does not and never will have that rivalry

lobby lou

Thats becuse they have a higher iq than a table tennis bat(and not the yob mentallity)
ok really bored now ....if we all supported the same teams there wouldnt be a league ....and u wouldnt be getteng relagated........................

BangleMan

True, I read somewhere recently that the decibel levels at The Britannia are the highest in the Premiership....maybe as its a relatrively new stadium it has better 'acoustics' than some of the older stadiums , I dont know ??

I dont ever recall Stoke being one of the hard firms when I was going home and away with West Ham throughout the 80's and early 90's, but anyone north of Watford typically hated anyone from south of Watford and there was a great divide between North & South.....not sure if that is the same now

The police in Manchester absolutely detested any West Ham fan, and treated everyone as a potential hooligan, even if like most you were simply going to watch the game. Even the police horses used to nudge you and spit on you as they escorted you from the station to Old Trafford !!.

I also remember a cross channel ferry having to be turned round and head back to Dover due to mass fighting between West Ham and Man U fans on their way to pre season games one year....lol

Have just read the autobiography by Cass Pennant (and seen the subsequent film 'Cass'), who was the first hooligan to be given a long term prison sentence by Thatcher to try and clamp down on hooliganism prior to Heysel, and some of the stories in there make you glad you didnt meet him down a dark alley......He was a 6'5' black fella, (which in itself at the time, must have resulted in him having numerous rows / fights due to racial tension that would have been in the East End in those days) who ended up being the leader of the West Ham hooligan firm, the 'ICF". He actually has a stall outside Upton Park's main gates selling merchandise on match days, and when you see him, he is definately not someone you would pick a fight on...lol

BangleMan

Hmmmm, a very sweeping and generalising statement.

So you would have us beleive that all rugby fans are intelligent, and all football fans, how did you put it ....have the intelligence of a table tennis bat....Have to say that is plain ridiculous, and barely worthy of a retort.

Besides, if the typical rugby fans IQ is that high, how come they are all dressed like sheep a..k.a Green barbour jackets and comfortable slacks.....?

No-one suggested we should all support the same team, so think you need to stop sniffing the glue and come back down to earth

Oh, we wont be getting relegated have no fear.....Meanwhile, you and your family can sit in your comfy armchair watching your beloved Man U

Sky Blue

You never been to the south west then Bangleman? Rugby is THE game and is not by any way supported by just the middle classes, try and get yerself down to a game a kingsholm in Gloucester or for that matter a local game in Matson... Make you wish you were back in Essex, sippin weak lager!! Oh err...

BangleMan

No, not knowingly......but what do you expect, there is nothing else down there for the carrot crunchers to do apart from play rugby ?

Sky Blue

As a massive fan of both games I do think that Rugby gets a lot more right than football and is a real mans game... Especially these days..

Ask Spugsy what a coochie is?

Sky Blue

Whats a carrot muncher? A rabbit or something?

BangleMan

Its a carrot cruncher not a muncher.....god, I am surrounded by village idiots and yokels...

Grace O Malley

what, OMG i thought Oxford was civilized

Grace O Malley

oh my dad used to take me and my sibs to go and watch QPR as early as 7, and his national sport is neither footie or rugby but when the popes in rome and all that....fab times and no violence , my brother still goes and takes his toddlers and no violence

BangleMan

gobby lou wouldnt know, as he/she never goes...