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The Dean Aug 4th 2008 3:01 pm

It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 
'Pub ban' order for wife killer

A judge has told a Glasgow pensioner that stopping him going to the pub was a "more meaningful" sentence than a prison term for killing his wife.

Edward Flaherty, 74, was convicted of strangling 69-year-old Ina Flaherty with a tie after she refused to give him money to go out drinking.

Lord Matthews said Flaherty's dementia made him unsuited to prison.

He imposed a year-long restriction of liberty order which will keep him inside his home during opening hours.

The pensioner will be tagged and banned from leaving his home in the city's Drygate area between 1100 and 2300 BST after being found guilty of culpable homicide.

Dutchie Aug 4th 2008 4:53 pm

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6644486)
'Pub ban' order for wife killer

A judge has told a Glasgow pensioner that stopping him going to the pub was a "more meaningful" sentence than a prison term for killing his wife.

Edward Flaherty, 74, was convicted of strangling 69-year-old Ina Flaherty with a tie after she refused to give him money to go out drinking.

Lord Matthews said Flaherty's dementia made him unsuited to prison.

He imposed a year-long restriction of liberty order which will keep him inside his home during opening hours.

The pensioner will be tagged and banned from leaving his home in the city's Drygate area between 1100 and 2300 BST after being found guilty of culpable homicide.

If he's in such a state of dementia, why live him at home? There's no logic in that. Sounds like the UK version of the Sopranos to me.

elfman Aug 4th 2008 5:00 pm

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6644486)
'Pub ban' order for wife killer

A judge has told a Glasgow pensioner that stopping him going to the pub was a "more meaningful" sentence than a prison term for killing his wife.

Edward Flaherty, 74, was convicted of strangling 69-year-old Ina Flaherty with a tie after she refused to give him money to go out drinking.

Lord Matthews said Flaherty's dementia made him unsuited to prison.

He imposed a year-long restriction of liberty order which will keep him inside his home during opening hours.

The pensioner will be tagged and banned from leaving his home in the city's Drygate area between 1100 and 2300 BST after being found guilty of culpable homicide.

the judge's reasoning is here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/s...st/7540994.stm

At the High Court in Glasgow, Lord Matthews told Flaherty that under normal circumstances he would have been given a prison sentence in double figures.

He said: "I have read and considered a number of reports from experts. It is plain to me that if I were to impose that sort of sentence you would be released in a very short time because prison would not be able to cope with your condition.

"Sentencing you would just be a token gesture. I am anxious to impose a sentence that restricts your liberty.

"You still go to the pub where you went with your wife. That must annoy her relatives.

"Not being able to go there will be a more meaningful disposal than a prison sentence which will not last long."

Charismatic Aug 5th 2008 6:06 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 
I just wanted to submit this for an award as well: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../03/do0307.xml

Spugsy Aug 5th 2008 8:06 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6646493)
I just wanted to submit this for an award as well: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../03/do0307.xml

jesus, poor bastards eh? they've been done right over there.

The Dean Aug 5th 2008 8:45 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6646493)
I just wanted to submit this for an award as well: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../03/do0307.xml

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE EU COMMON FISHERIES POLICY......

Just go and buy the book by the author of that article (Christopher Booker) and Richard North (also mentioned in the article).

It's called 'The Great Deception'.........

Warning: Boiling blood is not good for your peace of mind........

rowell Aug 5th 2008 9:03 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6644486)
'Pub ban' order for wife killer

A judge has told a Glasgow pensioner that stopping him going to the pub was a "more meaningful" sentence than a prison term for killing his wife.

Edward Flaherty, 74, was convicted of strangling 69-year-old Ina Flaherty with a tie after she refused to give him money to go out drinking.

Lord Matthews said Flaherty's dementia made him unsuited to prison.

He imposed a year-long restriction of liberty order which will keep him inside his home during opening hours.

The pensioner will be tagged and banned from leaving his home in the city's Drygate area between 1100 and 2300 BST after being found guilty of culpable homicide.

Judge was probably taking into account the fact that he had already done 2 life sentences:lol:

MacScot Aug 5th 2008 10:03 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 
Alcohol is supposed to kill brain cells, not wives.

During the trial the jury heard that the Glasgow pensioner could not remember strangling his wife after she refused to give him money to go to the pub.

This man obviously needs treatment for his mental health condition including dementia, but it is also vital that the public is properly protected. He no doubt needs to be institutionalised.

The sentence is also daft because if the man has dementia he won't remember that he is tagged..and will saunter down to his local pub. Anyone that breaks the tagging rule ends up in prison...so he will be locked up anyway.

Another Glasgow judge has just sentenced two Weegies to a minimum 35 years each for the murder of a 21-year-old Glasgow man, marking what is thought to be the longest-ever prison term handed out by a Scottish court.

Spugsy Aug 5th 2008 10:17 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6646802)
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE EU COMMON FISHERIES POLICY......

Just go and buy the book by the author of that article (Christopher Booker) and Richard North (also mentioned in the article).

It's called 'The Great Deception'.........

Warning: Boiling blood is not good for your peace of mind........

summarise it for me...

Spugsy Aug 5th 2008 10:18 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by MacScot (Post 6647020)
Alcohol is supposed to kill brain cells, not wives.

During the trial the jury heard that the Glasgow pensioner could not remember strangling his wife after she refused to give him money to go to the pub.

This man obviously needs treatment for his mental health condition including dementia, but it is also vital that the public is properly protected. He no doubt needs to be institutionalised.

The sentence is also daft because if the man has dementia he won't remember that he is tagged..and will saunter down to his local pub. Anyone that breaks the tagging rule ends up in prison...so he will be locked up anyway.

Another Glasgow judge has just sentenced two Weegies to a minimum 35 years each for the murder of a 21-year-old Glasgow man, marking what is thought to be the longest-ever prison term handed out by a Scottish court.

jaysus that is a long sentence, saying that, a lot of people get 8 years or so for murder, and thats not on at all.

MissDemeanor Aug 5th 2008 10:23 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 
so now the old bastard has to walk all the way to the off-license instead,and have his mates round the house.i can see how that is a severe punishment for knocking off your wife.

Spugsy Aug 5th 2008 11:04 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by MissDemeanor (Post 6647086)
so now the old bastard has to walk all the way to the off-license instead,and have his mates round the house.i can see how that is a severe punishment for knocking off your wife.

(are you listening SF?)

Simao Aug 5th 2008 11:15 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 
Haha, with that sentence we will see the old "Assasin" job flourish again between those pensioners. They can just say we don't remember.

MissDemeanor Aug 5th 2008 11:21 am

Re: It's the "Britain's Most Stupid Judge Award" - and the winner is....
 

Originally Posted by Spugsy (Post 6647201)
(are you listening SF?)

He never listens Spugs!!....i will start stocking up on the drink now!;)


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