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Old Mar 14th 2013, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Bahtatboy View Post
I was asked that last week. Replied ethics. I actually find it difficult to imagine a scenario where an ethical course of action would be illogical: to my mind, the ethical choice is the logical choice.
It depends on whether we are speaking about absolute ethics or 'relative ethics'; I have neither actually.

I would base my reply on the reputation of the firm interviewing me, that's the logical way to determine which is the right reply for them
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 4:38 pm
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well in a workspace you normally dont have to make those sort of decisions but just for arguments sake :

I do not agree with the fact that all ethical choices usually are always logical choices, I DO however agree that most ethical one are logical ones as well i.e. Today I came to the brink, the absolute brink of firing my office boy / runner. Without going into the details of his numerous snafus, some which have actually cost the company some money (not too much) as well and he does not seem to be learning from his mistakes, its not that he deliberately makes them, he is just zoned out all of the *****ing time...which I think is far worse! Now the logical choice is to get rid of him and save the company from a bigger loss down the road.

But.

I know him from a very long time ago so therefore I know his family background and how his family desperately needs the measly amount of AED he sends back every month. Plus he is just getting his sister married and his family got him engaged a few months ago....so I ask you, ethically what does one do? Micromanage and make sure nothing too drastic happens? Or get another, much smarter lad and train him alongside this one and then when this guys time is up, not renew his contract?
btw, I have always been a good firer so no issues there, its just, in this case I feel I should give him a few more chances.
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 5:00 pm
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You just answered your own question. You obviously don't want to fire him.

But for arguments sake forgoing the cost of on-boarding another employee when you could perhaps more effectively manage the one you have could also be the logical choice.
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 5:07 pm
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You just answered your own question. You obviously don't want to fire him.

But for arguments sake forgoing the cost of on-boarding another employee when you could perhaps more effectively manage the one you have could also be the logical choice.
yeah, it seems i did didnt i

but for arguments sake : no, the employee pays for it, in advance
the argument FOR that is, this way he knows he has a lot invested in it and cant afford to **** up, but its not working this time is it?
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 5:46 pm
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well in a workspace you normally dont have to make those sort of decisions but just for arguments sake :

I do not agree with the fact that all ethical choices usually are always logical choices, I DO however agree that most ethical one are logical ones as well i.e. Today I came to the brink, the absolute brink of firing my office boy / runner. Without going into the details of his numerous snafus, some which have actually cost the company some money (not too much) as well and he does not seem to be learning from his mistakes, its not that he deliberately makes them, he is just zoned out all of the *****ing time...which I think is far worse! Now the logical choice is to get rid of him and save the company from a bigger loss down the road.

But.

I know him from a very long time ago so therefore I know his family background and how his family desperately needs the measly amount of AED he sends back every month. Plus he is just getting his sister married and his family got him engaged a few months ago....so I ask you, ethically what does one do? Micromanage and make sure nothing too drastic happens? Or get another, much smarter lad and train him alongside this one and then when this guys time is up, not renew his contract?
btw, I have always been a good firer so no issues there, its just, in this case I feel I should give him a few more chances.
depends how you define ethics. sounds like he is off his face on drugs or drink, and he knows how much this job is worth but takes your company for a ride by not performing. is it ethical to instil such confusion amongst the rest of your staff by letting him "get away with it" / under perform without consequences? is it ethical to enable his drug/drink problem?
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 5:53 pm
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Khat does that to you (allegedly)...

Or is it paan?

That red stuff the twn chew and hockle everywhere anyway.

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Ha! I plan on trying that atleast once in my life!
But on a more serious note, OriginalSunshine, I totally agree with what you are saying that it is wrong to make others suffer his mistakes. But I know for a fact that there isn't a substance abuse issue, takes on to spot another one from miles if u know what I mean
No, his heart is in the right place, and on his good days he works for 3, but ever so often he will pull a real zinger! The one that will just make you sit back in disbelief! Bah, it's the weekend and there's a lonely bru out there which needs to be held and comforted!!
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 7:00 pm
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Your boss wouldn't hesitate to fire you if you were ****ing up, zoned out and ****ing up.

Just because someone is less privileged or less wealthy or from a certain place it doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

Sack him.
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Old Mar 14th 2013, 7:10 pm
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sounds like he is off his face on drugs or drink,
on his salary? more like he is just thinking about home and worrying about stuff.
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Your boss wouldn't hesitate to fire you if you were ****ing up, zoned out and ****ing up.

Just because someone is less privileged or less wealthy or from a certain place it doesn't mean they should be treated differently.

Sack him.
Golden Rule:

When you have to fire someone, he has failed - but so have you..........
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Golden Rule:

When you have to fire someone, he has failed - but so have you..........
Nah. Not always. You can control so much, not everything.
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Old Mar 15th 2013, 5:04 am
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on his salary? more like he is just thinking about home and worrying about stuff.
sure - we sacked our driver/houseboy, not when he'd been wearing my husband's trousers one day and claimed that someone else had given them to him (specialist hiking trousers that mostly are only bought in France), but when we caught him sleeping in the spare room, reeking and sleeping off his hangover from drinking stolen hooch that the SL community got cheap, after he had driven our kids to school.
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I think I was effectively asked this question by the RAF.

The question was: "If you were ordered to deliver a nuclear weapon to a major population area, would you obey the order?"
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Liked this one the other day though...
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well in a workspace you normally dont have to make those sort of decisions but just for arguments sake :

I do not agree with the fact that all ethical choices usually are always logical choices, I DO however agree that most ethical one are logical ones as well i.e. Today I came to the brink, the absolute brink of firing my office boy / runner. Without going into the details of his numerous snafus, some which have actually cost the company some money (not too much) as well and he does not seem to be learning from his mistakes, its not that he deliberately makes them, he is just zoned out all of the *****ing time...which I think is far worse! Now the logical choice is to get rid of him and save the company from a bigger loss down the road.

But.

I know him from a very long time ago so therefore I know his family background and how his family desperately needs the measly amount of AED he sends back every month. Plus he is just getting his sister married and his family got him engaged a few months ago....so I ask you, ethically what does one do? Micromanage and make sure nothing too drastic happens? Or get another, much smarter lad and train him alongside this one and then when this guys time is up, not renew his contract?
btw, I have always been a good firer so no issues there, its just, in this case I feel I should give him a few more chances.
Just to clarify, that's not logic v ethics, that's logic v compassion. Difficult nonetheless.
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