An impossible question? Dubai property market over next 5 years?
#17
Re: An impossible question? Dubai property market over next 5 years?
I would also imagine that the influx of money is a piss in the ocean compared to what left the banking system here in 2008 when institutions stopped speculating on the currency peg.
#18
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Don't bet on that. Did you know the Orascom brothers just bought two large villas in Emirates Hills?
I'm not saying this place will boom - in fact apartments have to go down a reasonable amount yet before they become financially viable (or at least rents go up a lot). Neither are going to happen in the short - medium term.
I'm not saying this place will boom - in fact apartments have to go down a reasonable amount yet before they become financially viable (or at least rents go up a lot). Neither are going to happen in the short - medium term.
of course there is a distinct posibility that the next regime will be worse and it may all be the reverse of what i said above. if i had to put money on it id say better not worse but it is egypt.....
#19
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I believe that if you buy now you risk losing a bit, but over 5 years it will be insignificant. Villas on established communities are probably a better bet than appartments, esecially if you want to rent out. When you look around the region there is nowhere that offers what the UAE can in terms of lifestyle.
I believe that very few folks from the West really enjoy living in Saudi, Kuwait, or Qatar - they are there to fill the money bucket - and tolerate the conditions while they do it. I have lived in them all + a few more, so I have some experience.
The current "Business freindly Bahrain" situation is only going to drive the remaining corporates to relocate here.
I believe that very few folks from the West really enjoy living in Saudi, Kuwait, or Qatar - they are there to fill the money bucket - and tolerate the conditions while they do it. I have lived in them all + a few more, so I have some experience.
The current "Business freindly Bahrain" situation is only going to drive the remaining corporates to relocate here.
#20
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I can't believe it still costs 7-800,000 for a 1 bed apartment in the Marina.
#21
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Of course the other issue is whether you really believe you truly have absolute ownership of a property in the UAE. Freehold here is not the same as in the West.
#22
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The initial idea was rent vs paying off mortgage.
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...
#23
Re: An impossible question? Dubai property market over next 5 years?
The initial idea was rent vs paying off mortgage.
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...
#24
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Re: An impossible question? Dubai property market over next 5 years?
All that money that you lot are referring to isn't going anywhere productive - it's sitting in deposit accounts waiting for the next opportunity.......
.......... which WON'T be in real estate, as I hear a rumour that a number of banks have told their branches that real estate/housing/construction projects will NOT be considered as suitable vehicles for lending in the next few years.
.......... which WON'T be in real estate, as I hear a rumour that a number of banks have told their branches that real estate/housing/construction projects will NOT be considered as suitable vehicles for lending in the next few years.
#25
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exactly what my bank told me, it's going to be a while
#26
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All that money that you lot are referring to isn't going anywhere productive - it's sitting in deposit accounts waiting for the next opportunity.......
.......... which WON'T be in real estate, as I hear a rumour that a number of banks have told their branches that real estate/housing/construction projects will NOT be considered as suitable vehicles for lending in the next few years.
.......... which WON'T be in real estate, as I hear a rumour that a number of banks have told their branches that real estate/housing/construction projects will NOT be considered as suitable vehicles for lending in the next few years.
#27
Re: An impossible question? Dubai property market over next 5 years?
The initial idea was rent vs paying off mortgage.
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...
For example:-
On a 1.6m dhs apartment, negotiate down to 1.4m, 400k deposit, mortgage on 1m dhs.
8% 20yr mortgage is about 8,100dhs per month
This is a saving of approx 2,000dhs per month on rent.
After 5 years you would have paid off about 150,000dhs capital, owing 850,000dhs. Plus saved 114,000dhs against rent therefore 736,000dhs owed.
However if you just look at the capital reduction of only 150,000dhs (15% of the loan) in five years if the property only dips say 10% in five years then you're out of pocket after fees, service charges etc
So for a slim margin like that plus all the other factors mentioned above - to answer my own question - it's not worth it...