I'm off as well. Goodbye.
Jun 25th 2011, 7:30 am
#62
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Abu Dhabi
Posts: 1,805
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
I've just read through a different thread, we have another Brit moaning about Asians/ Muslims / Islam in the UK in quite a derogatory manner.
We've had it in quite a few threads now. A simple thread ends up with nasty, sarcastic and bitter & twisted posts. No-one seems to object, so it looks like its fair game.
If it's ok in your book, then fair enough. In the past I have read comments about this being a British Forum, so therefore British 'opinion and humour' will prevail.
These comments are not ok in my book, as an Asian Muslim quite clearly, the comments are aimed at me, my family and friends. Who else are they aimed at? If it wasn't for 'us', then the problems wouldn't exist. Would they?
My own philosophy is that if you don't like the Middle East, stop moaning about it and f.cuk off back home. I don't like this Forum anymore, so I've quit moaning about it, and I'm gonna do the same - f.cuk off somewhere else.
There are a few decent people here, and its been a pleasure to meet them. However, they seem to be dwindling in number. Best of luck to you. Ma salaama.
We've had it in quite a few threads now. A simple thread ends up with nasty, sarcastic and bitter & twisted posts. No-one seems to object, so it looks like its fair game.
If it's ok in your book, then fair enough. In the past I have read comments about this being a British Forum, so therefore British 'opinion and humour' will prevail.
These comments are not ok in my book, as an Asian Muslim quite clearly, the comments are aimed at me, my family and friends. Who else are they aimed at? If it wasn't for 'us', then the problems wouldn't exist. Would they?
My own philosophy is that if you don't like the Middle East, stop moaning about it and f.cuk off back home. I don't like this Forum anymore, so I've quit moaning about it, and I'm gonna do the same - f.cuk off somewhere else.
There are a few decent people here, and its been a pleasure to meet them. However, they seem to be dwindling in number. Best of luck to you. Ma salaama.
Use the ignore button if your getting bubbly. If you want to leave, no need for a song and dance about it, just f.off!
FWIW, you've came accross as a helpful chap with common sense, suggest using it.
Jun 25th 2011, 8:56 am
#63
MODERATOR
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 6,370
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
I've just read through a different thread, we have another Brit moaning about Asians/ Muslims / Islam in the UK in quite a derogatory manner.
We've had it in quite a few threads now. A simple thread ends up with nasty, sarcastic and bitter & twisted posts. No-one seems to object, so it looks like its fair game.
If it's ok in your book, then fair enough. In the past I have read comments about this being a British Forum, so therefore British 'opinion and humour' will prevail.
These comments are not ok in my book, as an Asian Muslim quite clearly, the comments are aimed at me, my family and friends. Who else are they aimed at? If it wasn't for 'us', then the problems wouldn't exist. Would they?
My own philosophy is that if you don't like the Middle East, stop moaning about it and f.cuk off back home. I don't like this Forum anymore, so I've quit moaning about it, and I'm gonna do the same - f.cuk off somewhere else.
There are a few decent people here, and its been a pleasure to meet them. However, they seem to be dwindling in number. Best of luck to you. Ma salaama.
We've had it in quite a few threads now. A simple thread ends up with nasty, sarcastic and bitter & twisted posts. No-one seems to object, so it looks like its fair game.
If it's ok in your book, then fair enough. In the past I have read comments about this being a British Forum, so therefore British 'opinion and humour' will prevail.
These comments are not ok in my book, as an Asian Muslim quite clearly, the comments are aimed at me, my family and friends. Who else are they aimed at? If it wasn't for 'us', then the problems wouldn't exist. Would they?
My own philosophy is that if you don't like the Middle East, stop moaning about it and f.cuk off back home. I don't like this Forum anymore, so I've quit moaning about it, and I'm gonna do the same - f.cuk off somewhere else.
There are a few decent people here, and its been a pleasure to meet them. However, they seem to be dwindling in number. Best of luck to you. Ma salaama.
It's also a pity that some people think if you live somewhere you must praise it constantly and never dare point out anything bad, wrong or odd...especially if that has something to do with the local culture or religion. It seems some people wish to see certain systems of belief and certain cultures become immune from criticism by calling any criticism "racist" or "phobic".
For the record I find the constant frivolity of some aspects of British culture a bit too much sometimes. There's a time and a place for everything, jokes and seriousness too...but some people haven't figured that out yet which is annoying. However that's their prerogative and we all have the right to our views. Free speech ends when you start calling for harm or death to others, not the right to not be offended.
I don't know you personally and am sure you're as decent as the next person - if some things offend you that's just human. I'm constantly offended...haven't felt the need to declare I'm leaving the forums though.
That said I wish you well.
N.
Jun 25th 2011, 10:11 am
#64
Concierge
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 29,625
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
I think there is a fundimental difference between criticising the Muslims who give the rest of the Muslims a bad name and those born and raised in the West. The mentality of some of the Muslims people I have met here coupled with their attitude has sickened me. However I have many wonderful Muslims friend who ideals are the same as mine and also dislike the ways and attitudes of those Muslims who give Islam a bad name. Hope I am making sense 
Jun 25th 2011, 10:24 am
#65
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: Doha, Qatar
Posts: 2,675
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
From what I have seen, people are simply calling a spade a spade.
Be they Muslim or other. Both are voicing their opinion. Some do it in a way that makes debate possible, some do it by refusing to participate further.
Why would one feel personally attacked if somebody is voicing an opinion ? (unless one's name is mentioned and one is accused of something or other, of course)This is a discussion board...so simply counter argue.
One needs to have reasonably thick skin to handle this board, no question, (IMHO) but if one can't handle the heat one might want to get out of the kitchen...for a while.
Just felt like giving my 2 penny's worth (maybe it is only worth half a penny here, but that's ok too.
)
Be they Muslim or other. Both are voicing their opinion. Some do it in a way that makes debate possible, some do it by refusing to participate further.
Why would one feel personally attacked if somebody is voicing an opinion ? (unless one's name is mentioned and one is accused of something or other, of course)This is a discussion board...so simply counter argue.
One needs to have reasonably thick skin to handle this board, no question, (IMHO) but if one can't handle the heat one might want to get out of the kitchen...for a while.
Just felt like giving my 2 penny's worth (maybe it is only worth half a penny here, but that's ok too.
)
Jun 25th 2011, 10:27 am
#66
Concierge
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 29,625
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
From what I have seen, people are simply calling a spade a spade.
Be they Muslim or other. Both are voicing their opinion. Some do it in a way that makes debate possible, some do it by refusing to participate further.
Why would one feel personally attacked if somebody is voicing an opinion ? (unless one's name is mentioned and one is accused of something or other, of course)This is a discussion board...so simply counter argue.
One needs to have reasonably thick skin to handle this board, no question, (IMHO) but if one can't handle the heat one might want to get out of the kitchen...for a while.
Just felt like giving my 2 penny's worth (maybe it is only worth half a penny here, but that's ok too. )
Be they Muslim or other. Both are voicing their opinion. Some do it in a way that makes debate possible, some do it by refusing to participate further.
Why would one feel personally attacked if somebody is voicing an opinion ? (unless one's name is mentioned and one is accused of something or other, of course)This is a discussion board...so simply counter argue.
One needs to have reasonably thick skin to handle this board, no question, (IMHO) but if one can't handle the heat one might want to get out of the kitchen...for a while.
Just felt like giving my 2 penny's worth (maybe it is only worth half a penny here, but that's ok too.
)
Jun 25th 2011, 11:30 am
#67
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Posts: 930
Jun 25th 2011, 12:23 pm
#68
MODERATOR
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 6,370
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
You have to question how secure any ideology is that doesn't allow for criticism...
N.
Jun 25th 2011, 12:25 pm
#69
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,132
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
. . . and criticism is 'The Easiest Job in the World!'
Jun 25th 2011, 12:58 pm
#70
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Windscale....
Posts: 5,712
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an aquaintance or a stranger.
Jun 25th 2011, 1:15 pm
#71
Concierge
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 29,625
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
yes if it is directed at you, but a general comment about a particular group/groups of people should not cause mass offence, though I did manage to piss a few of on twitter when I said why do Muslim men feel the have the right to take their children from their Mothers, I was watching a programme filmed in a Muslim country at the time.
Jun 25th 2011, 1:19 pm
#73
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: May 2009
Location: Dubai
Posts: 5,965
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
Im hardly ever right to be fair!
Jun 25th 2011, 1:27 pm
#75
MODERATOR
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Dubai
Posts: 6,370
Re: I'm off as well. Goodbye.
yes if it is directed at you, but a general comment about a particular group/groups of people should not cause mass offence, though I did manage to piss a few of on twitter when I said why do Muslim men feel the have the right to take their children from their Mothers, I was watching a programme filmed in a Muslim country at the time.
Apparently there's "no compulsion in religion" in the Koran but children of a Muslim are automatically Muslim...even before they can read or write.
Still, it's not the place of non-believers who don't speak fluent Koranic Arabic to even comment on this sort of thing. What amazes me is the number of Non-Muslims who will be up in arms taking offense on behalf of Muslims these days!
N.
