If redShark was a Christian....
Jun 15th 2013, 6:54 am
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
Was not expecting it to be in the UK, what a load of bollocks. He thinks theres more credibility to the earth being 6000 years old than being billions of years old..... those poor kids don't stand a chance.
Jun 15th 2013, 12:40 pm
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
I had to stop it just after two monutes as the utter rubbish they are teaching those children makes me furious. Their parents are idiots for endorsing this nonsense and are participating in mass brainwashing. Even many leading clerics admit that whilst they think the bible is not the work of fiction they accept that the timings and many actions are illustrative only and not to be takem literally."Turning people into pillars of salt really, really happened" said that brainwasher. For shame.
Jun 15th 2013, 9:20 pm
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
Couple of questions / comments / requests - as you will...
1 - I'd like to learn more about your own beliefs and your knowledge of Islam - but I can't make head nor tail of your answers - can you be more clear and easily understood?
2 - I am impressed with the insight into the (special) relativity of time. Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?
3 - You have really done it again - what on earth (or in heaven) was your answer about?
1 - I'd like to learn more about your own beliefs and your knowledge of Islam - but I can't make head nor tail of your answers - can you be more clear and easily understood?
2 - I am impressed with the insight into the (special) relativity of time. Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?
3 - You have really done it again - what on earth (or in heaven) was your answer about?
I am not sure why my answers are not clear to you. Could it be because your source of knowledge of Islam is the west, and therefore you are having difficulties following me since I am presenting a different perception? If that is the case then I think you have quite some homework to do.
My belief is quite simple, I call myself an enlightened, and an open-minded Muslim (I wouldn’t use the word religious to avoid the stereotypes) who have adopted the Quran as a source of right and wrong in my conducts. Such a way of life is obviously different to a westerner’s way of life, whose source of right and wrong is trial and error.
Just as a general observation of the people on this forum (I am on about the behaved ones) it is pretty obvious from their curious questions that they have never come across Muslim thinkers before, or read anything about their ideas and reflections. I have not brought anything new to this forum in terms of Islamic ideas or claims. All the stuff that I have presented here were well known ideologies and thought out materials among the Muslim thinkers. I might have sometimes added my own insight into those ideas when I presented them here, but that is just about it.
Jun 16th 2013, 12:09 am
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
Guy calls in to an Islamic show; watch the woman's reaction
Jun 16th 2013, 1:19 am
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
Not that I understood all your questions, but I will attempt ago at some…
I am not sure why my answers are not clear to you. Could it be because your source of knowledge of Islam is the west, and therefore you are having difficulties following me since I am presenting a different perception? If that is the case then I think you have quite some homework to do.
My belief is quite simple, I call myself an enlightened, and an open-minded Muslim (I wouldn’t use the word religious to avoid the stereotypes) who have adopted the Quran as a source of right and wrong in my conducts. Such a way of life is obviously different to a westerner’s way of life, whose source of right and wrong is trial and error.
Just as a general observation of the people on this forum (I am on about the behaved ones) it is pretty obvious from their curious questions that they have never come across Muslim thinkers before, or read anything about their ideas and reflections. I have not brought anything new to this forum in terms of Islamic ideas or claims. All the stuff that I have presented here were well known ideologies and thought out materials among the Muslim thinkers. I might have sometimes added my own insight into those ideas when I presented them here, but that is just about it.
I am not sure why my answers are not clear to you. Could it be because your source of knowledge of Islam is the west, and therefore you are having difficulties following me since I am presenting a different perception? If that is the case then I think you have quite some homework to do.
My belief is quite simple, I call myself an enlightened, and an open-minded Muslim (I wouldn’t use the word religious to avoid the stereotypes) who have adopted the Quran as a source of right and wrong in my conducts. Such a way of life is obviously different to a westerner’s way of life, whose source of right and wrong is trial and error.
Just as a general observation of the people on this forum (I am on about the behaved ones) it is pretty obvious from their curious questions that they have never come across Muslim thinkers before, or read anything about their ideas and reflections. I have not brought anything new to this forum in terms of Islamic ideas or claims. All the stuff that I have presented here were well known ideologies and thought out materials among the Muslim thinkers. I might have sometimes added my own insight into those ideas when I presented them here, but that is just about it.
Jun 16th 2013, 2:09 am
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Jun 16th 2013, 4:35 am
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Jun 16th 2013, 5:46 pm
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
Not that I understood all your questions, but I will attempt ago at some…
I am not sure why my answers are not clear to you. Could it be because your source of knowledge of Islam is the west, and therefore you are having difficulties following me since I am presenting a different perception? If that is the case then I think you have quite some homework to do.
My belief is quite simple, I call myself an enlightened, and an open-minded Muslim (I wouldn’t use the word religious to avoid the stereotypes) who have adopted the Quran as a source of right and wrong in my conducts. Such a way of life is obviously different to a westerner’s way of life, whose source of right and wrong is trial and error.
Just as a general observation of the people on this forum (I am on about the behaved ones) it is pretty obvious from their curious questions that they have never come across Muslim thinkers before, or read anything about their ideas and reflections. I have not brought anything new to this forum in terms of Islamic ideas or claims. All the stuff that I have presented here were well known ideologies and thought out materials among the Muslim thinkers. I might have sometimes added my own insight into those ideas when I presented them here, but that is just about it.
I am not sure why my answers are not clear to you. Could it be because your source of knowledge of Islam is the west, and therefore you are having difficulties following me since I am presenting a different perception? If that is the case then I think you have quite some homework to do.
My belief is quite simple, I call myself an enlightened, and an open-minded Muslim (I wouldn’t use the word religious to avoid the stereotypes) who have adopted the Quran as a source of right and wrong in my conducts. Such a way of life is obviously different to a westerner’s way of life, whose source of right and wrong is trial and error.
Just as a general observation of the people on this forum (I am on about the behaved ones) it is pretty obvious from their curious questions that they have never come across Muslim thinkers before, or read anything about their ideas and reflections. I have not brought anything new to this forum in terms of Islamic ideas or claims. All the stuff that I have presented here were well known ideologies and thought out materials among the Muslim thinkers. I might have sometimes added my own insight into those ideas when I presented them here, but that is just about it.
We (on a whole, as an assumption) don't know anything much about Quranic teachings and we are asking you, as someone who purports to be well versed in these teachings, to explain these to us.
The problem comes when you tell us to "do our homework" - sorry, but that is poor "teaching" - you should be willing and able to explain your concepts and theories at the level your audience can understand.
As an example - we could ask "why does water freeze"? - I don't need to throw thermodynamic equations at you at the start and say if you don't understand then just do your homework - I just need to say 'cos it's pretty cold and some things change - as a starting point....
I mentioned about the concepts of Einstein's theory of relativity and the relevance to Islam and the time theory but you didn't pick up on that... I could have explained more, but didn't. Maybe you know, maybe you don't....
If you want to change our minds or educate us perhaps start with the premise that to learn we need to understand.... we understand the English words you use, just not in the order you use them...
Jun 16th 2013, 8:20 pm
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I can't believe that I am attempting this one last time, I'm going to try and make this as clear as I can.
We (on a whole, as an assumption) don't know anything much about Quranic teachings and we are asking you, as someone who purports to be well versed in these teachings, to explain these to us.
The problem comes when you tell us to "do our homework" - sorry, but that is poor "teaching" - you should be willing and able to explain your concepts and theories at the level your audience can understand.
As an example - we could ask "why does water freeze"? - I don't need to throw thermodynamic equations at you at the start and say if you don't understand then just do your homework - I just need to say 'cos it's pretty cold and some things change - as a starting point....
I mentioned about the concepts of Einstein's theory of relativity and the relevance to Islam and the time theory but you didn't pick up on that... I could have explained more, but didn't. Maybe you know, maybe you don't....
If you want to change our minds or educate us perhaps start with the premise that to learn we need to understand.... we understand the English words you use, just not in the order you use them...
We (on a whole, as an assumption) don't know anything much about Quranic teachings and we are asking you, as someone who purports to be well versed in these teachings, to explain these to us.
The problem comes when you tell us to "do our homework" - sorry, but that is poor "teaching" - you should be willing and able to explain your concepts and theories at the level your audience can understand.
As an example - we could ask "why does water freeze"? - I don't need to throw thermodynamic equations at you at the start and say if you don't understand then just do your homework - I just need to say 'cos it's pretty cold and some things change - as a starting point....
I mentioned about the concepts of Einstein's theory of relativity and the relevance to Islam and the time theory but you didn't pick up on that... I could have explained more, but didn't. Maybe you know, maybe you don't....
If you want to change our minds or educate us perhaps start with the premise that to learn we need to understand.... we understand the English words you use, just not in the order you use them...
I am not sure that I have understood you properly; which Quranic teaching you want to ask me about? I actually didn’t quite understand your question
“Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?”.
If you expected Quran to spell out mathematical equations then I can tell you that you will not find such things in Quran. What you'd rather find are structures of statements and rules that Quran invites you to ponder upon.
I am sorry if I am not getting through to you but that is really all I can tell you.
Jun 16th 2013, 9:16 pm
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
I am not sure that I have understood you properly; which Quranic teaching you want to ask me about? I actually didn’t quite understand your question
“Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?”.
If you expected Quran to spell out mathematical equations then I can tell you that you will not find such things in Quran. What you'd rather find are structures of statements and rules that Quran invites you to ponder upon.
I am sorry if I am not getting through to you but that is really all I can tell you.
“Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?”.
If you expected Quran to spell out mathematical equations then I can tell you that you will not find such things in Quran. What you'd rather find are structures of statements and rules that Quran invites you to ponder upon.
I am sorry if I am not getting through to you but that is really all I can tell you.
Jun 17th 2013, 4:44 am
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
I am not sure that I have understood you properly; which Quranic teaching you want to ask me about? I actually didn’t quite understand your question
“Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?”.
If you expected Quran to spell out mathematical equations then I can tell you that you will not find such things in Quran. What you'd rather find are structures of statements and rules that Quran invites you to ponder upon.
I am sorry if I am not getting through to you but that is really all I can tell you.
“Which one of us are approaching the speed of light? Me, you, the observer or someone else? Or is there some other measurable rationale behind such an occurrence?”.
If you expected Quran to spell out mathematical equations then I can tell you that you will not find such things in Quran. What you'd rather find are structures of statements and rules that Quran invites you to ponder upon.
I am sorry if I am not getting through to you but that is really all I can tell you.
Jun 17th 2013, 5:34 am
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Re: If redShark was a Christian....
I managed 58 seconds of that ****ing shite.
1)any and all state funding for this kind of crap should be stopped
2)if you want to teach kids this shite, fine, just so long as its taught in religious education classes as part of the national curriculum.
3) if you send your kids to this shite then please kill yourself and join jesus elsewhere and stop stealing my ****ing oxygen
as scamp would say
tsunamicunts the lot of em
1)any and all state funding for this kind of crap should be stopped
2)if you want to teach kids this shite, fine, just so long as its taught in religious education classes as part of the national curriculum.
3) if you send your kids to this shite then please kill yourself and join jesus elsewhere and stop stealing my ****ing oxygen
as scamp would say
tsunamicunts the lot of em
Jun 17th 2013, 6:36 am
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Jun 17th 2013, 8:15 am
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