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Old Jun 26th 2013, 10:54 am
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and why it's wrong.

This piece of film is quite old, but still very valid. A teacher demonstrates what discrimination is to her pupils with a very valuable lesson in humanity.

Fairly long, but as valid today as it was then and I think it's really worth taking the time to watch. She is/was obvioulsy a great teacher.


http://www.upworthy.com/watch-a-teac...n-imaginable-2
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and why it's wrong.

This piece of film is quite old, but still very valid. A teacher demonstrates what discrimination is to her pupils with a very valuable lesson in humanity.

Fairly long, but as valid today as it was then and I think it's really worth taking the time to watch. She is/was obviously a great teacher.

http://www.upworthy.com/watch-a-teac...n-imaginable-2
That clip is quite famous in the US. Interestingly, one of my South African friends who was brought up to believe that apartheid was god's will and was a minister in the Dutch Reformed Church, credited that woman with helping her to see the true nature of apartheid. She (my friend) subsequently went to work to help as she could in the townships as a teacher.
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I'd say we need to add : Race, Faith, Gender, Sexual orientation , Nationality and Social Standing to this.
Excellent teacher.
Although I wonder...what were to happen if this was done by a teacher today?
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I'd say we need to add : Race, Faith, Gender, Sexual orientation , Nationality and Social Standing to this.
Excellent teacher.
Although I wonder...what were to happen if this was done by a teacher today?
The term discrimination cover all of those topics as you can discriminate on the basis of so many things.

I'd love to know what her pupils had to say about her teaching many years later. I hope this lesson stayed with them.

I suspect that in many places today a teacher would get into trouble for speaking as she did.
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I liked that, never seen it before
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we need about 1 billion more like her
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I once got an almighty bollocking for saying 'Children should be obscene and not absurd'...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SpF3cwJ86A

The adults version is a classic too. All part of my education.

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Awesome.
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The real lesson is that there's a strong human instinct to discriminate against one another. Is it possibly built into our biology? Is it 'wrong'?
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The real lesson is that there's a strong human instinct to discriminate against one another. Is it possibly built into our biology? Is it 'wrong'?
Of course it's wrong to discriminate against someone based on some arbitrary physical trait.

You should only discriminate once they have proved themselves to be a twat.
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Of course it's wrong to discriminate against someone based on some arbitrary physical trait.

You should only discriminate once they have proved themselves to be a twat.
If 99.99% of people bearing the same arbitrary physical trait with whom you interacted behaved in a particular way, would it be rational to conclude that the next person bearing that same physical trait would behave in a similar way? And, having reached that conclusion, would it be sensible to treat that person in a way that--for you--is appropriate for the way that you conclude he will behave?

Assuming that most people would answer the above questions positively, at what point would sound judgment turn into discrimination? 99%? 95%? 75%? 50.00001%?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SpF3cwJ86A

The adults version is a classic too. All part of my education.
"she can change her orientation"?
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If 99.99% of people bearing the same arbitrary physical trait with whom you interacted behaved in a particular way, would it be rational to conclude that the next person bearing that same physical trait would behave in a similar way? And, having reached that conclusion, would it be sensible to treat that person in a way that--for you--is appropriate for the way that you conclude he will behave?

Assuming that most people would answer the above questions positively, at what point would sound judgment turn into discrimination? 99%? 95%? 75%? 50.00001%?
It's been a heavy week, I'm still working and your question hurts my head.

My response was based on the individual. You can use the 'looks like a duck, walks like a duck' argument, but it's not fair and is discriminatory if you act on it. I find it's often best to reserve judgement until I get some form of evidence either way.

Of course, there is also a difference between making fun of national stereotypes and being racist/discriminatory.
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Is the clip really worth watching?? I read the preamble blurb jobby, and it described 'The Catcher In The Rye' as 'required reading' whereas it is as we all know the most overrated piece of pretentious garbage ever to offend my eyeballs (thankfully, I gave up after about 20 pages).

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