scrubbedexpat141

Norm_uk

In the 1950s and early 60s my Dad had a barber shop in North London that catered to Afro hair and so had a lot of black working class men going there. He had his windows smashed in so many times over three years that no insurer would cover him. 'Lucky' for him his other businesses allowed him to cover the cost.

Yes, you are quite right - when you suffer from hooliganism for years your goal posts move quite significantly.

N.

seven seas

Did he also suffer from too many customers, because of being on a busy road? Some businesses on quieter roads would happily trade places, in order to get more foot traffic past their door.

That's one of the many costs of business. Replacing windows. Stock loss. Vandalism.

seven seas

That's what happens when your customers are a minority that's hated by people who are upset that Britishness is under threat.

Just out of interest, did he ever catch you at it?

scrubbedexpat141

That all sounds pretty ****ing stupid to me.

"Oh, your shop is on a busy road, well you should expect to suffer vandalism, theft and other nastiness"

So, because I live in a tall tower in a big city, should I expect to be burgled or stabbed in a stairwell?

Idiot.

NorthernLad

No, he paid extortionate rates/taxes for that privilege. And funnily enough, the council/government never offered to pay for repairs after the property was vandalised.

Your argument is absolutely bonkers. How can you say a business should accept vandalism in order to have a good location?

I can only assume you live in some sort of utopia and have never been the victim of vandalism.

When you work long hours for a lifetime to provide the best you can for your family, and then have to pay out because some twat decides it is fun to put a brick through your shop window, harsh sentences would make a bitter pill slightly easier to swallow.

Norm_uk

Is this an attempt at a straw-man joke? A puerile means of digging your evident misunderstanding of my views on race, culture and nation by suggesting I would vandalise my own family's properly and livelihood?

Another example of the civillised man being ruder than the savage because the savage has to think carefully before speaking because his words may result in his head being caved in by a rock no doubt.

N.

seven seas

It SOUNDS stupid, yet that's what actually happens.
The idiocy is in acting surprised when it happens. It isn't the way a society SHOULD be, or how I think it should be, but that's how it IS.

seven seas

Harsh sentences, or appropriate sentences. I am actually not that impressed by the criminal justice system in the UK, it is clearly not working.


A restaurant with a huge number of diners would have to pay for more glasses broken. More tabelcloths stained. More wear and tear generally. Same principle. Who sets up a shop and plans things on the basis that nobody will steal anything, and everyone will pay on time? Nobody.

seven seas

Look at the stats for violent crime in inner-city tower blocks, and you get the answer. Keep expecting the entire world to go your way, and you end up looking like an idiot.

Norm_uk

People pay taxes to prevent these things happening. If they do happen too often then we can see there are failures in the system...which is very clear in Britain.

People ask why they pay tax to see crime rise, civility decline, community decline, education fall, the unwilling to work being supported, asylum seekers who passed many safe countries to reach Britain and millions sent to countries in foreign aid that end up in the pockets of murderers and dictators.

It shouldn't happen. The system is rotten. We need a revolution.

N.

seven seas

+1

scrubbedexpat141

Are you being deliberately thick?

Yes the stats say that an inner city tower block might have more robberies than a village of same population in the Cotswolds, but does that mean I would live in the former and expect to be a victim of that crime?

Definitely not.

It works both ways though, I'd still have my home and contents insured if living in the latter.

Millsyisland

I disagree. Living in an inner city tower block I guarantee people take more precautions and are more wary against attacks, burglaries etc and thus do expect to be a victim of that crime.

Yes, of course there is crime in the Cotswolds (to use your example) but probably not as frequent or opportunistic.

scrubbedexpat141

I don't ever expect to be the victim of a crime.

It's a sad state of affairs if you leave your house / business expecting to come back to it having been ransacked