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Old Dec 14th 2019, 6:51 am
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DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime
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Under communism, every man has what he needs. So they'll puts a sign up that says "nobody needs Corbyn today."
So he’ll need to be pushed. I would say it’s unbelievable but it pretty much sums the man up - utterly detached from reality.
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DXB has problems in distinguishing anti-semitism and opposition to some acts of the State of Israel. In his eyes, any criticism of "Eretz Israel" is a crime
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I'm sorry? We're talking about Corbyn who refused to apologise four times on BBC for the pervasive antisemitism in his party? A man who laid a wreath on the grave of Palestinian terrorists? A man who supported the early release of Samar Alami and Jawad Botmeh. In case you forgot, the pair were convicted in the 1990s in connection with a car bomb explosion outside the Israeli Embassy in London and another against a building in London that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Not only did Corbyn run a campaign to get these two released from prison, but when they were released he acted as a character referee for at least one of them, claiming that Botmeh was a suitable person to be involved in the governance of a British university. Why would he do that? Of all the people in the prison system up and down this land, why would Corbyn have put such effort into getting a release for these two (and praising them, at that) who had been involved in the bombing of Jewish targets in London? Corbyn, who steadily refused to meet with any Israeli representatives while persistently keeping his associations with Palestinian terrorists?

Remind me again that we're still talking about Labour, whose Jewish MPs all resigned because of antisemitism? Where other MPs also stood down and told people not to vote Labour because of the antisemitism? The same Labour Party that is still under investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission? The same party that failed to suspend members for their antisemitism? I'm just doubly checking to make sure we're talking about the same Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour party?
Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it?

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So he’ll need to be pushed. I would say it’s unbelievable but it pretty much sums the man up - utterly detached from reality.
Let's just be grateful the scruffy champagne socialist chancer has gone.

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Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it?



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I bet he would do it IF all the other parties would do the same regarding antisemitism, antiIslam, antiLGBT, etc. but it will never happen BECAUSE all parties have members who are anti something like that, many of them sucessful at keeping it hidden, away from public discovery. Two of the newly elected Tory MPs are under investigation for possible antisemitic comments, membership of extremely dodgy Facebook groups allied to antisemitism, Unfortunaely the MSM is loath to publicise these stories as they don't fit what they consider newsworthy, i.e. they dont involve Jeremy or the Labour party.
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Originally Posted by Scamp
Yes, yes, yes, but where is the signed document from Corbyn saying he's anti-semitic or that his party has ever had anyone anti-semitic in it?
Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot

Let's just be grateful the scruffy champagne socialist chancer has gone.
Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.
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Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot



Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.
I doubt that, I suspect that Johnson may well make the tories unelectable for a generation given the mess he's likely to cause.
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Even then Corbynistas would claim it was a Zionist plot



Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.
He probably deserves a statue for the latter. Only sad thing is the huge number of young people voting for him, my age group was landslide Labour. I guess soon enough the 65+ category will be gone and we'll have a changing of the guard.
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Originally Posted by Scamp
. Only sad thing is the huge number of young people voting for him, my age group was landslide Labour.
They did . They found their voice and voted for what they felt was best for their country. I'd say that is a good thing not a sad thing.
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Credit where credit is due, he’s achieved the difficult task of making the Labour Party unelectable for at least another decade.
Not so sure about that. Bojo owns brexit now, so when it all goes wrong, which it surely will, when the promises get broken, which they surely will, he and the conservatives will have to take the rap.

Don't think all these new tory seats will remain tory for ever somehow, seeing how in most predictions they're in the same places most likely to be hardest hit economically by brexit.
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This suggests there wasn't a huge number of yoofs voting for him (Corbs)
https://www.brunel.ac.uk/news-and-ev...t-by-age-group
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They did . They found their voice and voted for what they felt was best for their country. I'd say that is a good thing not a sad thing.
I know, I'm just saying I think it's sad because I disagree with it and still class myself as a youth (31 counts, right?).

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This suggests there wasn't a huge number of yoofs voting for him (Corbs)
https://www.brunel.ac.uk/news-and-ev...t-by-age-group
Interesting. So youths voted for him but in fewer numbers than before.
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This suggests there wasn't a huge number of yoofs voting for him (Corbs)
https://www.brunel.ac.uk/news-and-ev...t-by-age-group
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I know, I'm just saying I think it's sad because I disagree with it and still class myself as a youth (31 counts, right?).



Interesting. So youths voted for him but in fewer numbers than before.
That is not what the article states .
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I know, I'm just saying I think it's sad because I disagree with it and still class myself as a youth (31 counts, right?).

Ah! You're sad that other young people voted differently to you. I can see that. Young couple I know ( late 20's/early 30's) with a young son, living in the Midlands , working + running a small business openly voted Labour. She is aghast at the GE result.
This young woman won a scholarship through her own hard study so has a degree. Is from a run of the mill family. Not wealthy/Not poor . Just making their way . Oh and she has lupus so the NHS is important for her as none in her family would ever afford private health insurance.

So it works both ways really & just goes to show that depending on personal situations and ideology for a nation, we can all think differently. She is sad too.
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That is not what the article states .
It doesn't really state a great deal in fact, it's just information. Interesting though, you can draw many conclusions - there was no surge in young people voting, so the butthurt amongst age-peers of mine and younger is actually laughable.

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Ah! You're sad that other young people voted differently to you. I can see that. Young couple I know ( late 20's/early 30's) with a young son, living in the Midlands , working + running a small business openly voted Labour. She is aghast at the GE result.
This young woman won a scholarship through her own hard study so has a degree. Is from a run of the mill family. Not wealthy/Not poor . Just making their way . Oh and she has lupus so the NHS is important for her as none in her family would ever afford private health insurance.

So it works both ways really & just goes to show that depending on personal situations and ideology for a nation, we can all think differently. She is sad too.
Absolutely, everyone has different opinions, none more valid than others.

(Unless it's mine, then it's obviously right and important Bevs, we all know that.)
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