France set to ban the niqab and burka
#16
Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
Ah the old "comment about anything to do with Islam that isn't arse kissing, capitualtion and cultural relativism and you're anti-muslim" trick. I suppose drawing a few very broad lines in Europe to say this is where our values end and begin is just too much for some people to handle isn't it? Funny because over here we are quite happy to acknowledge their values and abide by them.
Still it seems most French MPs and voters agree with me...as they do in Italy, Switzerland, Belgium and coming soon to an EU town near you
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Still it seems most French MPs and voters agree with me...as they do in Italy, Switzerland, Belgium and coming soon to an EU town near you
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#18
Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
We all know that these garments are as much cultural as religious and that the Qu'ran says nothing about having to wear such items. The burka in particular is a ridiculous outfit and I can see no good reason for its existence.
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Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
Looks like I'm moving to France!!!
#21
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Stop confusing criticism of a backwards and primitive imperialist ideology with criticism of actual people who come in all shapes and colours. I'd hardly be in the middle east and hanging out with all sorts of different people if I thought Muslims are all "evil" would I?
Anyway my original comment was more an attack on recent general European apathy, self-hate and Islamic ideology than on Muslims as people...so again it's "a lot like that'.
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#22
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Actually it is a lot like that.
Stop confusing criticism of a backwards and primitive imperialist ideology with criticism of actual people who come in all shapes and colours. I'd hardly be in the middle east and hanging out with all sorts of different people if I thought Muslims are all "evil" would I?
Anyway my original comment was more an attack on recent general European apathy, self-hate and Islamic ideology than on Muslims as people...so again it's "a lot like that'.
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Stop confusing criticism of a backwards and primitive imperialist ideology with criticism of actual people who come in all shapes and colours. I'd hardly be in the middle east and hanging out with all sorts of different people if I thought Muslims are all "evil" would I?
Anyway my original comment was more an attack on recent general European apathy, self-hate and Islamic ideology than on Muslims as people...so again it's "a lot like that'.
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#23
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They are already ablaze.....
Lets see this passed in the UK then............
Lets see this passed in the UK then............
#24
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Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
One, of many, things I remember of my early days in the ME, was not being allowed to wear short sleeved shirt or shorts. I thought it was crazy but complied. Likewise, moslems in Europe should comply to European dress, and any other, requirements. If they don`t like it they can always piss off back home.
Wally.
Wally.
#25
Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
One, of many, things I remember of my early days in the ME, was not being allowed to wear short sleeved shirt or shorts. I thought it was crazy but complied. Likewise, moslems in Europe should comply to European dress, and any other, requirements. If they don`t like it they can always piss off back home.
Wally.
Wally.
On a side note, I heard this story on the radio this morning. Nearly 1,000 drug arrests. Kinda puts paid to that perpetual myth that Brits always obey the law when abroad.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...831ntNwY6OmU_Q
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Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
One, of many, things I remember of my early days in the ME, was not being allowed to wear short sleeved shirt or shorts. I thought it was crazy but complied. Likewise, moslems in Europe should comply to European dress, and any other, requirements. If they don`t like it they can always piss off back home.
Wally.
Wally.
So badly formed, so unconnected, it barely qualifies as a thought...
#27
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Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
What is "European dress" exactly? Kilts and lederhosen?
On a side note, I heard this story on the radio this morning. Nearly 1,000 drug arrests. Kinda puts paid to that perpetual myth that Brits always obey the law when abroad.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...831ntNwY6OmU_Q
On a side note, I heard this story on the radio this morning. Nearly 1,000 drug arrests. Kinda puts paid to that perpetual myth that Brits always obey the law when abroad.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...831ntNwY6OmU_Q
Treat with very large pinch of salt, I think..............
#28
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I think most of these ideologies and systems need a good kicking - they don't really seem to be giving much benefit to humanity these days so I wonder why we don't work to get rid of them?
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#29
Re: France set to ban the niqab and burka
What is "European dress" exactly? Kilts and lederhosen?
On a side note, I heard this story on the radio this morning. Nearly 1,000 drug arrests. Kinda puts paid to that perpetual myth that Brits always obey the law when abroad.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...831ntNwY6OmU_Q
On a side note, I heard this story on the radio this morning. Nearly 1,000 drug arrests. Kinda puts paid to that perpetual myth that Brits always obey the law when abroad.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...831ntNwY6OmU_Q
Apparently there is European cuisine and even European languages and customs as well. It's shocking isn't it to think that not only ethnic minorities in Europe have culture, clothing and food?
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#30
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You probably wear European dress everyday. Even a pair of shorts, jeans, an suit, trainers, and everything inbetween would be classed as European or "western". It shows how far gone done the toilet we've gone when we don't know what clothing originated with us. Yes Kilts and Lederhosen too (not worn together I hope...)
Apparently there is European cuisine and even European languages and customs as well. It's shocking isn't it to think that not only ethnic minorities in Europe have culture, clothing and food?
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Apparently there is European cuisine and even European languages and customs as well. It's shocking isn't it to think that not only ethnic minorities in Europe have culture, clothing and food?
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I wear clogs and berets everywhere I go.