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Old Jul 24th 2011, 2:39 am
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I'm not sure if this has been posted, but an interesting article:

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...ai?pageCount=0
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Old Jul 26th 2011, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by NorthernLad
I'm not sure if this has been posted, but an interesting article:

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...ai?pageCount=0
Good article - I seem to recall that at the time we all said "The Dark side of Dubai" was plainly littered with child-like bullshit. He got a big bag of stereotypical views of Dubai, invented some characters to fit them and hey-ho, he wrote his fantasy. That's not to say he's not a good writer, I just think with his imagination he'd genuinely be better served writing fiction.
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Default Re: Expat takes UK journalist Johann Hari to task over portrayal of Dubai

Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs
Good article - I seem to recall that at the time we all said "The Dark side of Dubai" was plainly littered with child-like bullshit. He got a big bag of stereotypical views of Dubai, invented some characters to fit them and hey-ho, he wrote his fantasy. That's not to say he's not a good writer, I just think with his imagination he'd genuinely be better served writing fiction.
Johann Hari's original article might have played well to anyone who hasn't been to the Middle East, but to anyone who has worked there, it was quite obvious that reality hadn't been part of the brief, just do a piss-poor hatchet job on Dubai.

As for writing fiction, well, he already does that, it's just he doesn't call it fiction, which is a shame, as he is suprisingly entertaining if read as fiction...
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To be fair there are plenty of writers and speakers in this region who take Europe to task - but they are seen as extremist idiots.

Hari should know better and should have given far more balance than he did. Even the most grumpy expats have positive things to say about the UAE...how can someone who doesn't live here come out with such nonsense?

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Default Re: Expat takes UK journalist Johann Hari to task over portrayal of Dubai

Originally Posted by Norm_uk
To be fair there are plenty of writers and speakers in this region who take Europe to task - but they are seen as extremist idiots.

Hari should know better and should have given far more balance than he did. Even the most grumpy expats have positive things to say about the UAE...how can someone who doesn't live here come out with such nonsense?

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I had my doubts at the time that he had actually come out here at all.
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Well I'm glad this has cleared up one thing: I never knew if he was a he or a she from his photo alongside his columns. Just saying...
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A UAE newspaper sticking up for accurate reporting?

Oh, the irony...

How much bullshit have they put out over the years? Bahrain isn't run by murderous dictators, the doctors they're executing are all iranian backed trouble-makers, etc. etc.

The british press has its problems as we've seen recently, but the press is still free and a lot more reliable than anything in the UAE.

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People writing stuff about Dubai, eh? Now, there's an idea...
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Originally Posted by littlejimmy
People writing stuff about Dubai, eh? Now, there's an idea...
have you been here?
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Originally Posted by Blue Cat
have you been here?
I'm starting to think it was all a dream...
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I'm starting to think it was all a dream...
or a nightmare
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Default Re: Expat takes UK journalist Johann Hari to task over portrayal of Dubai

Originally Posted by littlejimmy
I'm starting to think it was all a dream...
You were warned that if you mixed your pills with alcohol you would have wild hallucinations...
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Originally Posted by Blue Cat
or a nightmare
Nah, it wasn't all bad.
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Default Re: Expat takes UK journalist Johann Hari to task over portrayal of Dubai

Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs
I had my doubts at the time that he had actually come out here at all.
He has an agenda, and he doesn't hide it very well.
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