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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Sand Pit (https://britishexpats.com/forum/sand-pit-116/)
-   -   EU migrant crisis (https://britishexpats.com/forum/sand-pit-116/eu-migrant-crisis-864527/)

norsk Sep 2nd 2015 2:59 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11738869)
Israel does not take in Syrian refugees in any meaningful numbers either.
Now that would be a serious mind****!

Boomhauer Sep 2nd 2015 3:17 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by norsk (Post 11738880)
Now that would be a serious mind****!
They do provide medical assistance to Sunni rebels/Islamists/Jihadis though , and their occasional bombing of Assad/Hezbollah helps the rebels/jihadis.

Iceland just said they would take in 10,000 Syrian refugees. If Iceland which is tiny and has a much smaller population than Israel can take in 10,000 refugees , why doesn't Israel. Israel is going to be far easier to reach for the refugees and the weather is same as Syria.

Boomhauer Sep 2nd 2015 3:20 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 11738659)
If you buy the argument that deep inside most people are nasty self-protecting little buggers, then you're probably right. History certainly has confirmed this.
Depends on the culture. Western world has changed a lot the past few decades, where now a lot of people and leaders genuinely do want to help people in need.

Bahtatboy Sep 2nd 2015 3:46 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11738800)
Do you think it's a blend of a relatively successful destination state (UK) that isn't completely unfriendly in welcoming the needy combined with a source state that's not been able to progress almost at all in the last X years.
Largely.

Bahtatboy Sep 2nd 2015 3:48 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11738875)
The other issue is that you just know that most of the Sunni refugees once settled in the West are just going to join the wider Sunni society in demanding and expecting society accept and defer to Islamic sensibilities.
This, of course, is the elephant in the room.

redShark Sep 2nd 2015 5:14 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Last week I sent an email to the EU office in Brussels telling them about some idea that I have (a solution very much British colonial in nature ) which can present a long term solution to this refugees crises. I told them that I am prepared to come over to their office and give them a power point presentation if they so wish. The idiots replied to me with a tender form to fill in thinking that I am a salesman selling them some tents and blankets (real bureaucrat dicks). I have now written a similar email to Angela Merkel’s personal email and now waiting to see if she bothers to reply

Bahtatboy Sep 2nd 2015 5:25 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11738984)
Last week I sent an email to the EU office in Brussels telling them about some idea that I have (a solution very much British colonial in nature ) which can present a long term solution to this refugees crises. I told them that I am prepared to come over to their office and give them a power point presentation if they so wish. The idiots replied to me with a tender form to fill in thinking that I am a salesman selling them some tents and blankets (real bureaucrat dicks). I have now written a similar email to Angela Merkel’s personal email and now waiting to see if she bothers to reply
I think perhaps the dick might be in the other sock...

Boomhauer Sep 2nd 2015 7:14 pm
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11738984)
Last week I sent an email to the EU office in Brussels telling them about some idea that I have (a solution very much British colonial in nature ) which can present a long term solution to this refugees crises. I told them that I am prepared to come over to their office and give them a power point presentation if they so wish. The idiots replied to me with a tender form to fill in thinking that I am a salesman selling them some tents and blankets (real bureaucrat dicks). I have now written a similar email to Angela Merkel’s personal email and now waiting to see if she bothers to reply
You should inform the Human Rights councils and the Media and your local Mosque on how you were snubbed and the reason no doubt was racial and Islamophobia.

norsk Sep 3rd 2015 4:29 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11738984)
Last week I sent an email to the EU office in Brussels telling them about some idea that I have (a solution very much British colonial in nature ) which can present a long term solution to this refugees crises. I told them that I am prepared to come over to their office and give them a power point presentation if they so wish. The idiots replied to me with a tender form to fill in thinking that I am a salesman selling them some tents and blankets (real bureaucrat dicks). I have now written a similar email to Angela Merkel’s personal email and now waiting to see if she bothers to reply
Let's hear it then. If it is a great idea publicity and a public pushing for it is probably the only thing that could convince the fukkers in the EU bureaucracy that they need to do something...

norsk Sep 3rd 2015 4:37 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11738893)
They do provide medical assistance to Sunni rebels/Islamists/Jihadis though , and their occasional bombing of Assad/Hezbollah helps the rebels/jihadis.

Iceland just said they would take in 10,000 Syrian refugees. If Iceland which is tiny and has a much smaller population than Israel can take in 10,000 refugees , why doesn't Israel. Israel is going to be far easier to reach for the refugees and the weather is same as Syria.
I'm sure they do mate. Probably more so than those in the region who consider themselves part of the same 'family' as those suffering. It's just funny how the Israelis are perfectly happy for the world to consider them to be thunder*****s (which in some aspects they obviously are, but so is every country on earth to an extent) whilst they help people many consider to be their natural enemies on the quiet..

The Icelandic thing is just incredible by the way. It illustrates perfectly how individuals are truly generous and have great empathy, but when they come together to act as governments they become faceless, uncaring and calculating.

Millhouse Sep 3rd 2015 6:01 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Let's be clear about Iceland. The idiotic population have an online campaign for 10,000 migrants. The government have said - 50.

Ironically, that is the exact opposite of the UK government whereby the people are saying "no more" and the government are saying "please come"

thistlehollyberry Sep 3rd 2015 6:11 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Why can't Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and other Arab countries resettle some of these refugees?

Millhouse Sep 3rd 2015 6:19 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by thistlehollyberry (Post 11739353)
Why can't Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and other Arab countries resettle some of these refugees?
you're not from these parts are you? :lol:

I will try and summarize it in three words ... they hate them

The deeper truth is they hate each other and both see the world (and the religion) as a better place without the other. Add on to the fact that while these regions are rich they have deep structural issues with respect to opportunity, education and employment and you will seen see why such migration isn't for them. The countries even pick their expats very carefully.

Millhouse Sep 3rd 2015 6:23 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 11738869)
The Western media should focus in on how the rich GCC countries do not take in Syrian refugees , despite sharing a lot of cultural similarities and being closer to Syria than Northern Europe. Israel does not take in Syrian refugees in any meaningful numbers either.
and that would achieve?

scrubbedexpat141 Sep 3rd 2015 6:29 am
Re: EU migrant crisis
 
Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 11739357)
you're not from these parts are you? :lol:

I will try and summarize it in three words ... they hate them

The deeper truth is they hate each other and both see the world (and the religion) as a better place without the other. Add on to the fact that while these regions are rich they have deep structural issues with respect to opportunity, education and employment and you will seen see why such migration isn't for them. The countries even pick their expats very carefully.
Why won't the Gulf states take Syrians? (BBC)

Nice summary Millhouse.


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