EK in trouble?

Old Mar 8th 2017, 9:08 am
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I have been following the PPRune website for a while now and it has always been the usual EK pilots complaining and I would put most of it down to them being pampered babies but since late the tune has changed to a more serious tone. Words like 'before the inevitable happens' and 'hopefully there isnt a hole in the ground before they realize' are not words / sentences to be thrown about carelessly and I am concerned now.

Is it true that the training staff as well as both seat staff are mostly newbies?
Here is just one example of the many threads in the past, well, 1 year?

Good bye EK - PPRuNe Forums

Them being over-priced and snobbish obviously goes without saying but there is a huge difference between proud and careless.
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err what is 'PRRUNe'?
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just read the post...dayummm
i'd have thought being an experienced pilot you could virtually pick and choose who YOU want to work for.
I have a mate who's a captain for Emirates...will ask him what's the DL

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Originally Posted by mission View Post
just read the post...dayummm
i'd have thought being an experienced pilot you could virtually pick and choose who YOU want to work for.
I have a mate who's a captain for Emirates...will ask him what's the DL
Not that simple. Like any job you have to wait for a vacancy and then you have to work your way to seniority in that airline. Even if you enter as a Captain most airlines will still rank you below those who have been there longer. And when redundancy comes round its usually last in, first out, even if you have been flying for other airlines for years.
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Originally Posted by Pollyana View Post
Not that simple. Like any job you have to wait for a vacancy and then you have to work your way to seniority in that airline. Even if you enter as a Captain most airlines will still rank you below those who have been there longer. And when redundancy comes round its usually last in, first out, even if you have been flying for other airlines for years.
ah i see....interesting.
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Flying jets, chasing hosties, seeing the world, getting paid good money and moaning.

Some people eh.
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Flying jets, chasing hosties, seeing the world, getting paid good money and moaning.

Some people eh.
In most cases I would agree with all of what you said mate, but not if it comes at the cost of over-working or tiredness / fatigue. I'd like my pilot to have an even number of take-offs and landings if you know what I mean
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In most cases I would agree with all of what you said mate, but not if it comes at the cost of over-working or tiredness / fatigue. I'd like my pilot to have an even number of take-offs and landings if you know what I mean
Yeah, agreed.

Incidentally, how many cabs have you been in out here where the driver nods off on SZR?
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most pilots i have seen have been mingers.....kinda goes hand in hand with you can't be gorgeous AND have a brain
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most pilots i have seen have been mingers.....kinda goes hand in hand with you can't be gorgeous AND have a brain
we've not met

Are pilots glorified bus drivers? Can't help thinking it's a job that won't exist in 10 years time.
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we've not met

Are pilots glorified bus drivers? Can't help thinking it's a job that won't exist in 10 years time.
I know quite a few pilots and that is pretty much how they describe themselves.

Most also don't earn anything close to what many people imagine.
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Can't help thinking it's a job that won't exist in 10 years time.
It barely exists now. They don't do anything beyond what a 7yr old could do on a simulator.
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It barely exists now. They don't do anything beyond what a 7yr old could do on a simulator.
Not watched the film Sully then?
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Not watched the film Sully then?
Nah. Sort of proves my point. When a pilot actually had to fly a plane, they made a film about it.
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I know quite a few pilots and that is pretty much how they describe themselves.

Most also don't earn anything close to what many people imagine.
exactly. So when I was having my mid-life performance review , I looked into training to be a pilot.

Then I discovered it was something like 100k USD to fully train, for a job that starts on around 25kAED a month. Bit of a disconnect there.
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