Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10861532)

what can you do?

errrr, how about not following a barbaric tradition based in a time of no soap and clean water, both of which trump any so called medical justification.

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861781)

:) but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861847)

:confused: Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861875)

Yes, good point, what I meant to say was that most customs today.
But all these cust

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861879)

Ah, fair enough.

Cust? I could murder a trifle right now.

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 10861781)

:) but that's exactly my point mate. Customs are not based on any form of justifications.

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 10861847)

:confused: Most customs are based on justifications which were valid when the custom came about. Not eating pork, male circumcision, clinking glasses when saying "Cheers", being permitted to take 4 wives, keeping thy hand out of plackets...

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861712)

I read that they expect a similar demand to Germany in 06 / 7 applicants per ticket. However I also expect that most foreigners are going to apply for Rio / SP and Braslia (not sure offhand if Recife is hosting, if so - them aswell). Curitiba and Porto Alegre will attract Argentina and German fans I would image.

June will be fine tempwise, warmer than Scotland that's for sure!

I'm heading off there in a couple weeks - 3 weeks of doing nothing and since I'm working my notice - the blackberry is staying on my desk!

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10861254)

Had a bit of an argument with the wife last night, she had our daughters ears pierced at the hospital. Young Martina is not yet 3 months old.

Wife tells me this is normal in Brazil while I am I of the opinion that 3 months is far too young.

Am I right to be pissed off or am I in the wrong on this?

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 10974857)

Sounds like people who have their foreskins cut off as infants - they rarely see what the problem is.

Body modification, should be left until a child is old enough to know what it actually entails. In the case of ear piercing I would suggest sometime in the mid teenage years for most. For other more invasion modifications it should be the same as elective surgery - an adult decision.

Custom or belief is no longer a valid excuse for meddling with young people's bodies.

N.

Originally Posted by saudiflares (Post 10974516)

looks like I may be in Curitiba, Rio and Porto Alegre next year after all. Money's left my account...but no contact from FIFA :confused:

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 10977280)

I had an email from FIFA a few days ago saying they have delayed the deadline for finding out about it until the 10th November (was initially the 5th November), something to do with the Brazilian authorities supervising the draw.

I just logged into several of my applications and they all still say pending which is better than rejected!

Curitiba was the 3rd most popular venue which I found surprising, I would have thought the more common tourist cities like Belo Horizonte / Natal / Recife would have been more popular.

Originally Posted by saudiflares (Post 10977293)

yeah mine says pending...but money has left my VISA account to Fifa Zurich which is promising (notwithstanding some monumental cock up)

I may show FIFA some support and go and take eldest to watch the U-17s in Abu Dhabi this alvo

Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 10975463)

Explain the custom if infant circumcision or female circumcision in certain cultures but not others?

N.