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UKCityGent Mar 25th 2018 11:56 pm

E-Vape
 
Ive finally decided to start using e-vape.


I'm down to 4/5 cigs a day from 30-40 a day (only day 2!).


Anybody else using this vape ?


I am puffing on it all day - is that normal ?


Gent

reddiva Mar 26th 2018 12:12 am

Re: E-Vape
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470114)
Ive finally decided to start using e-vape.


I'm down to 4/5 cigs a day from 30-40 a day (only day 2!).


Anybody else using this vape ?


I am puffing on it all day - is that normal ?


Gent

A bloke i work with puffs on his all day.

weasel decentral Mar 26th 2018 12:18 am

Re: E-Vape
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470114)
Ive finally decided to start using e-vape.


I'm down to 4/5 cigs a day from 30-40 a day (only day 2!).


Anybody else using this vape ?


I am puffing on it all day - is that normal ?


Gent

A bloke I work with doesn't puff on his all day.

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 26th 2018 4:27 am

Re: E-Vape
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470114)
Ive finally decided to start using e-vape.


I'm down to 4/5 cigs a day from 30-40 a day (only day 2!).


Anybody else using this vape ?


I am puffing on it all day - is that normal ?


Gent

Good on you, that's a really fast reduction, :thumbup: it took me about 10 days to quit the weed.

You're puffing on it all day JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN!

It's normal to start with, but once you come off the cigs completely set yourself a settling in period, then try and adopt a 'reducing' schedule.

What nicotine level are you vaping at?

Novocastrian Mar 26th 2018 4:41 am

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I quit about 4 years ago dropping from 25 or so a day to zero in around three months of patches. These days I use e-ciggies from a UK company which have 16 mg nicotine in each cartridge and a pack of 5 lasts me about a week (£6.99).

I no longer have a smoker's cough and feel generally more healthy, despite being 4 years older.

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 26th 2018 4:52 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12470362)
I quit about 4 years ago dropping from 25 or so a day to zero in around three months of patches. These days I use e-ciggies from a UK company which have 16 mg nicotine in each cartridge and a pack of 5 lasts me about a week (£6.99).

I no longer have a smoker's cough and feel generally more healthy, despite being 4 years older.

And good on you too! :thumbup:

I'm coming up on 3 years, the cough has gone, the sense of smell is back big time. And yes, also feeling generally healthier.

I started on 18mg, now mixing and matching for taste reasons, but I think I'm down to about 12 mg on average now.

UKCityGent Mar 26th 2018 5:23 pm

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I was given a variety of flavours with different strengths - so usually choose a flavour more than the strength of the nicotine.


I really really hate filling up the tank - liquid pouring out everywhere and fliddly.


I would ideally like to get disposable tanks if they exist !

UKCityGent Mar 26th 2018 5:34 pm

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Silly question time: Do you inhale the vape smoke or treat it like a cigar ?

jam25mack Mar 26th 2018 5:53 pm

Re: E-Vape
 

Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470114)
Ive finally decided to start using e-vape.
I'm down to 4/5 cigs a day from 30-40 a day (only day 2!).
Anybody else using this vape ?
I am puffing on it all day - is that normal ?
Gent

Good work! Mega drop!

Yeah I vape. Quit the cigs about 16 months ago. Full on stopped. Don't be tempted to mix the two. You will have some withdrawal cravings despite the nicotine you get from vaping as nicotine is only the 'most' addictive of the several thousand chemicals in cigs. Your body will be missing others too, however, keep strong and it will pass quickly.

All day vaping.... yes and no. Sat at home watching TV I vape quite a lot. When in work I still need to go out as per a cig break so vape as I would have smoked. In the car - yes. When boozing - yes. Other times not so often. If I'm honest I don't feel anywhere near as controlled by vaping as I did when smoking (av about 10 a day).


Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470807)
I was given a variety of flavours with different strengths - so usually choose a flavour more than the strength of the nicotine.
I really really hate filling up the tank - liquid pouring out everywhere and fliddly.
I would ideally like to get disposable tanks if they exist !

Are you vaping mouth to lung or direct to lung? Most start off at MTL and switch to DTL relatively soon. This will determine what strength you are using.

Tank filling - you'll get used to it in no time and will be able to do it without thinking and spilling a drop. Obviously though all equipment varies and some are better than others. Generally the starter kits you get are pretty shite in quality and design and so I would advise sticking with it for a few weeks and if its working for you investing in a decent set up. I'll PM you a great FB group based in the UK. It's an forum linked to the best online shop (just won the award). Everyone is super helpful and super friendly.



Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470810)
Silly question time: Do you inhale the vape smoke or treat it like a cigar ?

Inhale it otherwise it's not doing anything.

MTL you smoke similar to a cigarette. The nicotine strengths are stronger and you make less vapour. These are most similar to the act of smoking and so what most starter kits are.

DTL you take a big draw straight in and all the way down and then straight out again (no holding). Strengths used are less in comparison and you get more vapour.

Most people move from MTL to DTL quite quickly after deciding they like vaping as IMO DTL has a wider range of gear, better flavours and is a nicer vape.

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 26th 2018 10:24 pm

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Originally Posted by UKCityGent (Post 12470807)
I was given a variety of flavours with different strengths - so usually choose a flavour more than the strength of the nicotine.


I really really hate filling up the tank - liquid pouring out everywhere and fliddly.


I would ideally like to get disposable tanks if they exist !

If you were smoking 30-40 a day, then you likely have quite a high nicotine dependency. I wanted to reduce the nicotine level as fast as possible, but went too fast and ended up vaping almost all the time. One downside is that depending on your tolerance to the particular VG/PG ratio in your chosen liquid, you can end up with throat irritation, even inducing coughing.

As jam25mack says, the tank filling will become second nature quite quickly. Also agree that the starter kits are of lesser quality - and flexibility - than 'proper' kit. I'm not into the business of building my own coils or that kind of stuff, but have a mid-range kit which gives me a choice of coil resistance and variable air intake.

I'm what jam25mack describes as MTL and have no intention of changing. Due to the ridiculous laws in this country, one cannot buy e-juice containing nicotine here; you can vape it, just not buy it. So, I pop over the border or buy via internet. The internet route comes with the good old import duty sword, so this meant that it took quite a time to find a 'blend' that I was happy with; after trying literally dozens of flavours, I still couldn't find an acceptable off the shelf liquid, so now mix my own based on three or four different liquids.

mikelincs Mar 27th 2018 3:03 am

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I gather that only now are they beginning to find potential problems with vaping, it appears that the coils can give off a potentially toxic vapour with some of the liquids, and even some of the liquids could contain potential toxins.

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 27th 2018 3:38 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12471163)
I gather that only now are they beginning to find potential problems with vaping, it appears that the coils can give off a potentially toxic vapour with some of the liquids, and even some of the liquids could contain potential toxins.

Which is why I use reputable kit, and only reputable liquids - UK, US and French made.

Millhouse Mar 27th 2018 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy (Post 12471188)
Which is why I use reputable kit, and only reputable liquids - UK, US and French made.

Why do you think they would be any better?

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 27th 2018 5:59 am

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Originally Posted by Millhouse (Post 12471243)
Why do you think they would be any better?

For the reasons that mikelincs mentioned.

jam25mack Mar 27th 2018 8:06 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12471163)
I gather that only now are they beginning to find potential problems with vaping, it appears that the coils can give off a potentially toxic vapour with some of the liquids, and even some of the liquids could contain potential toxins.

There is a lot of fake news and questionable research results funded by the tobacco industry out there. Have you got a link? This is hardly surprising seeing as they have lost massive numbers to vaping over the last few years. The Govt has obviously noticed too hence the introduction of the TPD laws. They must be losing a shit load of taxes.

FYI the British Surgeon General's report following a 5 year study concluded that that vaping is 95% less harmful than smoking which probably puts it on a par with walking down a trafficked high street in the UK. This is backed up by you being allowed to vape anywhere outside UK hospitals whereas you need to find a smoking area to smoke cigs. Many other independent studies show similar results...... the ones funded by the tobacco industry report something different strangely enough.

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 27th 2018 8:58 pm

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Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12471619)
There is a lot of fake news and questionable research results funded by the tobacco industry out there. Have you got a link? This is hardly surprising seeing as they have lost massive numbers to vaping over the last few years. The Govt has obviously noticed too hence the introduction of the TPD laws. They must be losing a shit load of taxes.

FYI the British Surgeon General's report following a 5 year study concluded that that vaping is 95% less harmful than smoking which probably puts it on a par with walking down a trafficked high street in the UK. This is backed up by you being allowed to vape anywhere outside UK hospitals whereas you need to find a smoking area to smoke cigs. Many other independent studies show similar results...... the ones funded by the tobacco industry report something different strangely enough.

:goodpost:

hnd Mar 28th 2018 2:33 am

Re: E-Vape
 
This was in today’s The National:

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...ettes-1.716829

BuckinghamshireBoy Mar 28th 2018 2:54 am

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Originally Posted by hnd (Post 12471817)
This was in today’s The National:

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...ettes-1.716829

Each country has differing laws, and each country's medical associations have differing opinions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positi...nic_cigarettes

and for more general background:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette

Plenty of reading in there.

jam25mack Mar 28th 2018 4:46 am

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Originally Posted by hnd (Post 12471817)
This was in today’s The National:

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai...ettes-1.716829

Yup. They do it all the time. When I went in to see my guy last week he had hardly anything in stock. Apparently they were getting raided the day after so he'd taken everything home for the day.... ;):rofl:

He gets tipped the wink by the coppers who come in to buy their vape stuff.

UKCityGent Mar 31st 2018 8:00 pm

Re: E-Vape
 
Its been almost a week since I started to vape, after smokingalmost 2 packs a day for approx. 30 years.In the last week ive smoked a pack of cigs (which were lying around athome) – I noticed it was boredom while working.


I will definitely upgrade the TECC ARC3 to a better model (thanks tojam25mack for the FaceAche site).


I averaged 3 bottles of the liquid a week (at 24mg) as I wasconstantly puffing. I am going to reduceto the 18mg and only take vape breaks rather than smoke at my desk.


Not sure of what to do with the aged whiskey cigars :(

Arcadia Mar 31st 2018 11:22 pm

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Hi There.

I have been vaping for 2 years now with no intentions of stopping.
Cigs are nearly £10 a pack here in the UK and I spend 89p a week on a bottle of oil and £2.50 a moth on a new filter.
Mine is quite discreet and doesnt give off huge plumes of vapour.

As for the health aspect, my GP Vapes and I recently asked a surgeon if they were okto use and his reply was he treats a vaper as a non smoker and would be happy to operate on them.

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 1st 2018 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by Arcadia (Post 12473910)
I recently asked a surgeon if they were okto use and his reply was he treats a vaper as a non smoker and would be happy to operate on them.

So he wouldn't operate on a smoker?

Arcadia Apr 1st 2018 1:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12473941)
So he wouldn't operate on a smoker?

Good question Scamp and he actually said No, he wouldnt operate on a smoker,however his speciality is gastric bypass surgery, so coupled with the high risk factor from the obesity I can understand why.

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 1st 2018 5:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Arcadia (Post 12474178)
Good question Scamp and he actually said No, he wouldnt operate on a smoker,however his speciality is gastric bypass surgery, so coupled with the high risk factor from the obesity I can understand why.

Interesting. Do the surgeons get a choice?

Arcadia Apr 2nd 2018 10:50 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12474221)
Interesting. Do the surgeons get a choice?

With this kind of surgery yes they do.

Anyone being placed on a list for a gastric bypass by a GP has to attend 3 seminars and meet certain criteria before being operated on. And top of that list is that they are non smokers.
Im sure that people say they have stopped just so they can have the procedure. But the point is the surgeon who performs such ops at James cook hospital says he will not operate on smokers yet he will proceed if the person vapes.

scrubbedexpat141 Apr 2nd 2018 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Arcadia (Post 12474725)
With this kind of surgery yes they do.

Anyone being placed on a list for a gastric bypass by a GP has to attend 3 seminars and meet certain criteria before being operated on. And top of that list is that they are non smokers.
Im sure that people say they have stopped just so they can have the procedure. But the point is the surgeon who performs such ops at James cook hospital says he will not operate on smokers yet he will proceed if the person vapes.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

BuckinghamshireBoy Jul 25th 2018 1:57 am

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After 3 years of 'normal' vaping, I'm now alternating with sub-ohm vaping using another box/tank combo, obviously.

Up in Belgium a couple of weeks back, I exchanged nods with a fellow vaper on a restaurant terrasse, he came over, apologised if he was sticking his face in, but suggested that I try his set-up, so we just swapped mouthpieces and his stuff was 'ok', a bit too chocolaty for me, but I took his point.

I'm not after massive clouds of vapour, but the big benefit is that I have now dropped the nicotine level on the new set-up to 3mg rather than 12mg on the original setup. This is definitely progress. :thumb:

Irishbeekeeper Jul 25th 2018 2:28 am

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I using the new Nic-Salts these days at 35 MG and 50 MG
had my head swimming the first day so got scared and ran away from it but now have settled down into a routine. I dont smoke or vape the whole day so a few Nic-Salt drags at the end of the day with a few cold ones is perfect.
But if you are trying to cut down from 12MG to 3MG, then this stuff is too lethal for you :D

UKCityGent Jul 25th 2018 6:07 pm

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Im still vaping, but still occasionally buy a pack of cigs sometimes.

Its still a pain to keep filling up the tank, and have only recently learnt that its ok to wash your atomisers and give them a clean !

Ive tried the Nic-salts but that after-taste left a horrible taste in my mouth.

Millhouse Jul 25th 2018 6:36 pm

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Does it still look like you're chugging on a betamax cassette with a C-cell battery stuck in it or have they improved the look of the machines yet?

UKCityGent Jul 25th 2018 6:42 pm

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i have 3 batteries - all slimline. Easy to put in hand and take a drag when in a restaurant or some place where you are not allowed to smoke. The batteries can connect up to my samsung chargers which are scattered everywhere - from laptop to car to home so charging them is not a problem. The only pain in the royal butt is topping them up as i tend to drip the liquid (this morning i have manged to ruin a perfectly decent tie !!)

Arcadia Jul 30th 2018 12:51 pm

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Can I just ask if any of you who vape, do you carry them through airport checks?
would I be ok with one in my handbag at Heathrow and then coming through customs in Abu Dhabi?

reddiva Jul 30th 2018 5:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Arcadia (Post 12541056)
Can I just ask if any of you who vape, do you carry them through airport checks?
would I be ok with one in my handbag at Heathrow and then coming through customs in Abu Dhabi?

Security guidelines state it has to be in your hang luggage not the hold. The UK are fine about them however what i do when i land in the UAE is put it in my pocket as your bag may go through the scanner again ( whereas you don't go through a scanner when you land) I know people who kept it in their bag, it was picked up by the scanners here and it was taken off them

DXBtoDOH Jul 30th 2018 8:02 pm

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Originally Posted by reddiva (Post 12541089)
Security guidelines state it has to be in your hang luggage not the hold. The UK are fine about them however what i do when i land in the UAE is put it in my pocket as your bag may go through the scanner again ( whereas you don't go through a scanner when you land) I know people who kept it in their bag, it was picked up by the scanners here and it was taken off them

Why is it banned in the UAE? You'd think they'd want people to kick the habit but it seems like the UAE cares more about keeping people addicted. Profits for the bars?

jam25mack Jul 30th 2018 8:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Arcadia (Post 12541056)
Can I just ask if any of you who vape, do you carry them through airport checks?
would I be ok with one in my handbag at Heathrow and then coming through customs in Abu Dhabi?


Originally Posted by reddiva (Post 12541089)
Security guidelines state it has to be in your hang luggage not the hold. The UK are fine about them however what i do when i land in the UAE is put it in my pocket as your bag may go through the scanner again ( whereas you don't go through a scanner when you land) I know people who kept it in their bag, it was picked up by the scanners here and it was taken off them

Have been vaping coming up 2yrs in Dec and have flown through many countries. Always have my vape in my hand luggage as well as spare batteries and bottles of juice. Never had a single problem. Only once did the security guy at Heathrow question what my juice was (in an unmarked bottle) until he then saw the vape, then he was fine.

So, IMO no problem at all. Just make sure you keep them is your hand luggage as lithium batteries are prohibited in the hold.

jam25mack Jul 30th 2018 8:06 pm

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12541142)
Why is it banned in the UAE? You'd think they'd want people to kick the habit but it seems like the UAE cares more about keeping people addicted. Profits for the bars?

It's not. It is illegal to sell vape stuff but not illegal to vape.

DXBtoDOH Jul 30th 2018 8:13 pm

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Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12541144)
It is illegal to sell vape stuff but not illegal to vape.

Ah. Makes sense now.

No. It doesn't. Why is it illegal to sell vape stuff?

reddiva Jul 30th 2018 8:52 pm

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Originally Posted by jam25mack (Post 12541143)
Have been vaping coming up 2yrs in Dec and have flown through many countries. Always have my vape in my hand luggage as well as spare batteries and bottles of juice. Never had a single problem. Only once did the security guy at Heathrow question what my juice was (in an unmarked bottle) until he then saw the vape, then he was fine.

So, IMO no problem at all. Just make sure you keep them is your hand luggage as lithium batteries are prohibited in the hold.

I am on about the UAE. The UK couldn't care less. My colleagues FIL who comes here each year now leaves a spare here as he had one took off him ( UAE) and i was stopped here last year and asked how many i had, i replied one and immigration let me in with it

reddiva Jul 30th 2018 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12541148)
Ah. Makes sense now.

No. It doesn't. Why is it illegal to sell vape stuff?

Money money money, money, MONEY. If everyone stopped smoking and vaped no profits to the gov

jam25mack Jul 31st 2018 6:46 pm

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Originally Posted by reddiva (Post 12541164)
I am on about the UAE. The UK couldn't care less. My colleagues FIL who comes here each year now leaves a spare here as he had one took off him ( UAE) and i was stopped here last year and asked how many i had, i replied one and immigration let me in with it

Weird. I have been thorough the UAE airports many many times with vape related stuff, as have several of my friends....


Originally Posted by reddiva (Post 12541165)
Money money money, money, MONEY. If everyone stopped smoking and vaped no profits to the gov

Nail on the head!


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