weasel decentral

I really hate the engineering of American cars, big ol' barges on couch springs with engines from the 1940s. Nice to look at if you are into that sort of muscle look but I couldn't have one as a daily driver.

The interior of (I think) a charger my friend had was some kind of tacky moulded plastic, similar in feel and quality to the wrapping of a child's toy.

What do the general public of America hate about decent responsive suspension, working brakes and being about to get 200HP out of a 2 litre engine, in a considerably lighter frame.

scrubbedexpat141

I dunno. I bought mine because it's big with a big engine and it's something I wouldn't / couldn't have in the UK.

However, I do very much miss my A3, the interior was mega, really comfy and utterly rapid.

weasel decentral

Sure why not but despite the big engine its probably only producing slightly more horse power to a 2L diesel SUV in the UK

Millhouse

torque for mid-range acceleration -- Oh, the exploder doesn't have any of that either.

weasel decentral

The torque in the equivalent diesel will be much higher than the petrol engine and come in at lower (usable) part of the rev range.

Anyhow it's always puzzled me, however should I make my way to the UAE I will buy some ridiculous penis extension for myself.

Millhouse

There are very few diesels here though - the diesel is utter crap and the petrol cheap.

scrubbedexpat141

I can't disagree, I just wanted something big and silly. I'm not sure how far in the future it will be before I have a proper 4.0l V6 which produces some actual power...

Nope. But with the speed cameras here I can red line to compete with most other cars up to 120kmh and then sit just ahead of them

Millhouse

Fortuner, Prado or FJ?

scrubbedexpat141

No - Ugly.
No - More common than my Exploder
No - Interior is worse and can't see ANYTHING out of it.

I wanted a Discovery until the comments on here of things going wrong non stop.

Now I've seen the new Exploder, it looks very nice, but would rather something different.

Fancy a Tahoe but the good ones are very pricey.

Then I remember I've had mine only 18 months so need to stop being a dick looking at other cars.

flares

get a Jeep - reliability massively improved now they are part of...erm...Fiat

scrubbedexpat141

Nah, I was taught to drive in a Wrangler (a proper one, no roof, hose it down inside kind of Wrangler) and have no desire to drive one every day.

The Grand Cherokee is nice, but I'd want the Hemi or the SRT (I think it is), but then you'd all be mourning my premature death from driving like a twat.

Autonomy

I really don't know that much about cars, I've had the same Wrangler since 2004 and am happy with it, even though it's hot as hell...

If I had the cash, this looks very very tasty...

http://www.mideast.jeep.com/grand_ch...rt8/index.html

Johnnyboy11

Might be worth checking out BMW as they are struggling to shift cars in Europe. I just ordered a 530d GT M-Sport for UK delivery in September (for the Missus) and got a £4k BMW discount and a £6.5k dealer discount. That's 20% off of list price, which was nice.

There's a new X5 launching in a month or two, completely re-engineered, so worth a look.

Boomhauer

Their fullsize pick-ups are best in class; mostly (like 98%) because of the Cummins diesel.

OleJanx

No doubt true, but then the diesel engine isn't a Chrysler/Fiat made item. The 7.3 litre Ford Powerstroke diesel is pretty good too.