The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
Jan 18th 2009, 10:50 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
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Immigration System - So have influx of Irish, Indian, West Indian population that came over in the 50/60's not been rewarded?
Rewarded? I am interested to know what you mean by that...
Immigration System - So have influx of Irish, Indian, West Indian population that came over in the 50/60's not been rewarded?
Rewarded? I am interested to know what you mean by that...
Jan 18th 2009, 10:55 am
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I currently support the fair distribution of revenue to benefit ALL the people in the Union though.
When you say an increasing number of "us" who would be more than happy to support you what do you mean? Who is "us"? and who is "you"? Where are you from?
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Jan 18th 2009, 11:00 am
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"We have economic apartheid and we have an unelected head of state. We also have an immigration system that does not reward hard work and full cultural integration."
I was using Norms statement and making broad themes, my point was that I think that the system has and can reward people who work hard, not in 5 minutes but over time I think that there has been a mutual economic benefit and many other benefits to migration for those specific groups and many others, also it isnt perfect and many others have had a bad time, for a variety of reasons...
I was using Norms statement and making broad themes, my point was that I think that the system has and can reward people who work hard, not in 5 minutes but over time I think that there has been a mutual economic benefit and many other benefits to migration for those specific groups and many others, also it isnt perfect and many others have had a bad time, for a variety of reasons...
Jan 18th 2009, 11:08 am
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"We have economic apartheid and we have an unelected head of state. We also have an immigration system that does not reward hard work and full cultural integration."
I was using Norms statement and making broad themes, my point was that I think that the system has and can reward people who work hard, not in 5 minutes but over time I think that there has been a mutual economic benefit and many other benefits to migration for those specific groups and many others, also it isnt perfect and many others have had a bad time, for a variety of reasons...
Um i would tend to disagree with you SB, people who came over in the 50/60's and worked bloody hard are now retired and struggling in the UK with the pathetic pension they get. Is that a reward for their hard work! Many Irish went back to Eire for their retirement, as the Irish Pension and benefits is the same as the Scottish system. but the Indians/West Indians who stayed in the UK are finding it very tough to survive on their pension alone.
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
"We have economic apartheid and we have an unelected head of state. We also have an immigration system that does not reward hard work and full cultural integration."
I was using Norms statement and making broad themes, my point was that I think that the system has and can reward people who work hard, not in 5 minutes but over time I think that there has been a mutual economic benefit and many other benefits to migration for those specific groups and many others, also it isnt perfect and many others have had a bad time, for a variety of reasons...
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
Jan 18th 2009, 11:09 am
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I take it you've never heard of the Barnett Formula?
1.25 million pensioners in England and Wales say they cannot afford heating bills during the winter while in Scotland pensioners can apply for home improvement grants to install central heating systems and double-glazing for free.
Scottish pensioners can get free care to help those over 65 with feeding, dressing and washing. They can also get free eye and dental check ups. They get free bus and coach travel anywhere in Scotland and access to a wider range of cancer treating drugs than their cousins south of the border. Most don't pay for parking fees when they visit the hospital either.
1.25 million pensioners in England and Wales say they cannot afford heating bills during the winter while in Scotland pensioners can apply for home improvement grants to install central heating systems and double-glazing for free.
Scottish pensioners can get free care to help those over 65 with feeding, dressing and washing. They can also get free eye and dental check ups. They get free bus and coach travel anywhere in Scotland and access to a wider range of cancer treating drugs than their cousins south of the border. Most don't pay for parking fees when they visit the hospital either.
Scottish MPs (almost all left of centre) look after the people first. English voters should elect left of centre MPs that would do the same...unfortunately many vote conservative...so social-minded programs for looking after the sick and pensioners south of the border are unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Jan 18th 2009, 11:14 am
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Nothing to do with Barnett consequentials...the Scots spend their block grant in the manner they see fit. Same can be done with the English block grant, which is huge.
Scottish MPs (almost all left of centre) look after the people first. English voters should elect left of centre MPs that would do the same...unfortunately many vote conservative...so social-minded programs for looking after the sick and pensioners south of the border are unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Scottish MPs (almost all left of centre) look after the people first. English voters should elect left of centre MPs that would do the same...unfortunately many vote conservative...so social-minded programs for looking after the sick and pensioners south of the border are unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Jan 18th 2009, 11:21 am
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Re: The Dismal State Of The UK As Seen On BBC1's Traffic Cops
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Um i would tend to disagree with you SB, people who came over in the 50/60's and worked bloody hard are now retired and struggling in the UK with the pathetic pension they get. Is that a reward for their hard work! Many Irish went back to Eire for their retirement, as the Irish Pension and benefits is the same as the Scottish system. but the Indians/West Indians who stayed in the UK are finding it very tough to survive on their pension alone.
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
Well then they are doing as well as the rest of the people who worked hard in the country then, its all relative, isnt it! There are opportunities for people, one shouldn't forget we still have a class system in the UK and there are millions of people who will struggle as the powers that be and the population forget about them.
At least those nice Irish and Scottish have left some more extra pension fund to subsidise our poor nation for a wee while longer
Um i would tend to disagree with you SB, people who came over in the 50/60's and worked bloody hard are now retired and struggling in the UK with the pathetic pension they get. Is that a reward for their hard work! Many Irish went back to Eire for their retirement, as the Irish Pension and benefits is the same as the Scottish system. but the Indians/West Indians who stayed in the UK are finding it very tough to survive on their pension alone.
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
At least those nice Irish and Scottish have left some more extra pension fund to subsidise our poor nation for a wee while longer
Jan 18th 2009, 11:23 am
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Um i would tend to disagree with you SB, people who came over in the 50/60's and worked bloody hard are now retired and struggling in the UK with the pathetic pension they get. Is that a reward for their hard work! Many Irish went back to Eire for their retirement, as the Irish Pension and benefits is the same as the Scottish system. but the Indians/West Indians who stayed in the UK are finding it very tough to survive on their pension alone.
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
It's also Capitalism as well Anna, work really hard and you shall be rewarded?? Thats the dream isnt it?????
Um i would tend to disagree with you SB, people who came over in the 50/60's and worked bloody hard are now retired and struggling in the UK with the pathetic pension they get. Is that a reward for their hard work! Many Irish went back to Eire for their retirement, as the Irish Pension and benefits is the same as the Scottish system. but the Indians/West Indians who stayed in the UK are finding it very tough to survive on their pension alone.
Does this inspire people to work hard in the UK?
Jan 18th 2009, 11:30 am
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Jan 18th 2009, 11:31 am
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As long as we have a system that celebrates past injustice and robs from peter to paul we'll never have a political system that represents all the folk from the Isles fairly.
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Jan 18th 2009, 11:47 am
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Jan 18th 2009, 11:49 am
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I would never support English independence. Division would reduce England, Scotland and Wales to provincial backwaters of the EU. There are no logical grounds for division when all that is needed is a full review of the current Union and a move towards balance and fairness.
I currently support the fair distribution of revenue to benefit ALL the people in the Union though.
When you say an increasing number of "us" who would be more than happy to support you what do you mean? Who is "us"? and who is "you"? Where are you from?
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I currently support the fair distribution of revenue to benefit ALL the people in the Union though.
When you say an increasing number of "us" who would be more than happy to support you what do you mean? Who is "us"? and who is "you"? Where are you from?
N.
Jan 18th 2009, 11:49 am
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I think the whole system is corrupt and needs to be rebooted or the whole country will go down the drain of separatist movements which will simply reduce our influence and respectability around the world, not to mention reduce our national security and economic prosperity.
As long as we have a system that celebrates past injustice and robs from peter to paul we'll never have a political system that represents all the folk from the Isles fairly.
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As long as we have a system that celebrates past injustice and robs from peter to paul we'll never have a political system that represents all the folk from the Isles fairly.
N.
Jan 18th 2009, 3:55 pm
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I watched the latest episode of Traffic cops yesterday, they were up north in Hull and it just pissed me off that the whole program featured foreign f**kers breaking our laws, causing chaos and f**king up our country.
Now when I say breaking laws, I am not talking about the odd "speeding" offence, the program was following the Armed response unit and featured a couple of russians that decided to have a fight in the street with knives, some other Italian guy who was parked on a Pelican Crossing, when questioned by police told about 70 lies, said he had an Italian licence to try and get out of having points etc etc, the whole country is f**ked!
When are the British Public going to wake up and reclaim their bloody land!
Now when I say breaking laws, I am not talking about the odd "speeding" offence, the program was following the Armed response unit and featured a couple of russians that decided to have a fight in the street with knives, some other Italian guy who was parked on a Pelican Crossing, when questioned by police told about 70 lies, said he had an Italian licence to try and get out of having points etc etc, the whole country is f**ked!
When are the British Public going to wake up and reclaim their bloody land!
What a wind up merchant you are
Jan 18th 2009, 4:09 pm
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So you think Scotland would be better off having to rely on the tax revenue of a few million people and dwindling North Sea Oil and Gas reserves do you?
I can't see the free bus passes lasting very long if that happens can you? They would be at least 3-4 billion quid a year worse off...
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I can't see the free bus passes lasting very long if that happens can you? They would be at least 3-4 billion quid a year worse off...
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