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Old Jul 26th 2009, 7:32 pm
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Zinedine Zidane reckons Gerrard outclasses every other midfielder in the world........

Mind you, that Zidane............ decent passer, but no pace, too easily marked out of important games, with a ludicrously overrated reputation based entirely on a couple of opportunist goals in the 1998 WC Final........... if someone chipped the ball into the space behind him, he needed a tugboat to pull him round so he could chase it........
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christ, what??
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Old Jul 27th 2009, 5:48 am
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Yes?
ludicrously overrated? Zidane? You're having a fûcking giraffe aren't you?!?
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ludicrously overrated? Zidane? You're having a fûcking giraffe aren't you?!?
Always thought so.....

The Zidane Fan Club - founder member Alan Hansen - always focused on his 'good points' (of which I admit there are a few) but failed to acknowledge the tiny number of occasions he actually changed the course of an important match.

Anyone that can comfortably be man-marked out of a game by Carlton Palmer isn't all genius.

And that chronic lack of pace often let him down.

Lineker once compared him to Diego Maradona (the finest player, IMHO, the world has ever seen), which merely supported the theory that Lineker donated his brain to science about 15 years ago.
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Always thought so.....

The Zidane Fan Club - founder member Alan Hansen - always focused on his 'good points' (of which I admit there are a few) but failed to acknowledge the tiny number of occasions he actually changed the course of an important match.

Anyone that can comfortably be man-marked out of a game by Carlton Palmer isn't all genius.

And that chronic lack of pace often let him down.

Lineker once compared him to Diego Maradona (the finest player, IMHO, the world has ever seen), which merely supported the theory that Lineker donated his brain to science about 15 years ago.
Ronaldo was man marked out of the Shamrock Rovers game last week, doesn't mean he's shit thoguh does it?

The was was amazing, truly amazing - he could create something out of nothing, score wonderful goals and his passing and trickery were unbelievable - for quite some time he was the best player in the world.
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Ronaldo was man marked out of the Shamrock Rovers game last week, doesn't mean he's shit thoguh does it?

The was was amazing, truly amazing - he could create something out of nothing, score wonderful goals and his passing and trickery were unbelievable - for quite some time he was the best player in the world.
We'll never agree on his worth. Great player? Yes up to a point, but as I said, how many games can you remember when he single-handedly turned a losing scoreline around? Or exerted such a strong influence that his team did so?

In an All-Time World XI, would he be in your midfield? Maradona, Platini, Cruyff, Charlton, Rijkaard, Edwards, Pele, Garrincha, Gullit, Zico.....
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Quite a few - he basically made France tick.

He obviously didn't score the winning goals in the World Cup final and a champions league final (one of the best european final goals ever)

France obviously didn't fall apart without him in their side in 2002.

He obviously didn't score twice against England and help a poor French side to the Quarter finals (where they lost to the eventual winners)

In 2006 he obviously didn't score high pressure penalties in the semi or final, or ping in the free-kick that Henry scored the winner from against Brazil, and he definitely didn't score and get an assist against Spain in the second round.
 
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We'll never agree on his worth. Great player? Yes up to a point, but as I said, how many games can you remember when he single-handedly turned a losing scoreline around? Or exerted such a strong influence that his team did so?

In an All-Time World XI, would he be in your midfield? Maradona, Platini, Cruyff, Charlton, Rijkaard, Edwards, Pele, Garrincha, Gullit, Zico.....
for Juve he was just incredible, at Real he was great but he was in a team of 'galacticos', ronaldo, figo, beckham etc - but at Juve he was the master.

Not sure about best ever midfield, cruyff, platini, robert lee and maradona?
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Default Re: Debate of the Day.....Is John Terry worth a Million quid a month

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Not sure about best ever midfield, cruyff, platini, robert lee and maradona?
You're having a laugh, mate.How could you not include Colin Bell?
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You're having a laugh, mate.How could you not include Colin Bell?
Or Billy Bonds !
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Or Billy Bonds !
Sorry Bangles, he would have been top of my list...next to Bobby Moore...but I thought they were both central defenders.
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Sorry Bangles, he would have been top of my list...next to Bobby Moore...but I thought they were both central defenders.
I'm more of a fan of Mick Mills.

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anyone who says lampard isn't much good is a total idiot, look at how many goals he gets season after season, he may be a stupid tit but he's an exceptional player.
Spugsy...there is a fine line of difference between classing someone "overrated" & "Isn't much good", like the 400's between London and Manchester.

The question is, to what extent is he an Exceptional player? Can we add frank to the category of BRILLIANCE amongst some of the best players today?
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I'm more of a fan of Mick Mills.

Well if you are going to include Mick Mills then you have to mention Russell Osman, those two were awesome together in Escape to Victory
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Well if you are going to include Mick Mills then you have to mention Russell Osman, those two were awesome together in Escape to Victory
john wark was better, what a tash!
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